Posted by dfdsf on July 25, 2005, 9:13 pm
Can anyone give me some info on this bike. I just bought it off e-bay and I
know nothing about it other than it has 305 engine and this one is
beautiful. Any info, or leads to where I can find some info would be greatly
appreciated.
aaron
Posted by kriyamanna on July 25, 2005, 10:10 pm
dfdsf wrote:
> Can anyone give me some info on this bike. I just bought it off e-bay and I
> know nothing about it other than it has 305 engine and this one is
> beautiful. Any info, or leads to where I can find some info would be greatly
> appreciated.
You might still be able to find a Clymer manual on that machine and
others that used the same basic engine.
CL72 and CL77 were handsome-looking 250cc and 305cc Scramblers with
high exhaust pipes on the right hand side. They looked like real
motorcycles. CB72 and CB77 were attractive 250cc and 305cc Superhawks
with round fenders and a tubular steel frame. They looked a lot more
like motorcycles than the fugly Dreams.
C77 was a 305cc square-fendered Dream built in 1962. CS77 was built in
1963.
The Dreams were weird-looking transportation machines with a pressed
steel frame, pressed steel springer forks and a pressed steel swing
arm.
I had a 1960 C71. That was a 250cc square-fendered Dream that wasn't
originally sold in the USA. A guy in the Air Force brought it back from
Okinawa.
The engines of all those machines were vertical parallel twins with
4-speed transmissions, with electric and kick starters. The valve
adjustment was by threaded screws in the rocker arms. Some had twin
carburetors, but the Dreams had single carburetors to get great gas
mileage. My Dream had about 20 horsepower at 10,000 RPM. The engines
were all dry-sumped as I recall, the oil was in a separate tank on the
right hand side of the frame. It only held about 1.5 liters of oil. The
weirdest thing about those old Hondas, besides the weird look of the
square-fendered Dreams, was the chain-driven centrifugal oil cleaner
hidden under the engine side cover.
1967 was the last year Honda built the early model single overhead cam
Dreams, Superhawks and Scramblers.
Posted by dfdsf on July 25, 2005, 10:45 pm
how do i know if it is a cl 72, or cl 77, cb xx etc,?
> dfdsf wrote:
>> Can anyone give me some info on this bike. I just bought it off e-bay and
>> I
>> know nothing about it other than it has 305 engine and this one is
>> beautiful. Any info, or leads to where I can find some info would be
>> greatly
>> appreciated.
> You might still be able to find a Clymer manual on that machine and
> others that used the same basic engine.
> CL72 and CL77 were handsome-looking 250cc and 305cc Scramblers with
> high exhaust pipes on the right hand side. They looked like real
> motorcycles. CB72 and CB77 were attractive 250cc and 305cc Superhawks
> with round fenders and a tubular steel frame. They looked a lot more
> like motorcycles than the fugly Dreams.
> C77 was a 305cc square-fendered Dream built in 1962. CS77 was built in
> 1963.
> The Dreams were weird-looking transportation machines with a pressed
> steel frame, pressed steel springer forks and a pressed steel swing
> arm.
> I had a 1960 C71. That was a 250cc square-fendered Dream that wasn't
> originally sold in the USA. A guy in the Air Force brought it back from
> Okinawa.
> The engines of all those machines were vertical parallel twins with
> 4-speed transmissions, with electric and kick starters. The valve
> adjustment was by threaded screws in the rocker arms. Some had twin
> carburetors, but the Dreams had single carburetors to get great gas
> mileage. My Dream had about 20 horsepower at 10,000 RPM. The engines
> were all dry-sumped as I recall, the oil was in a separate tank on the
> right hand side of the frame. It only held about 1.5 liters of oil. The
> weirdest thing about those old Hondas, besides the weird look of the
> square-fendered Dreams, was the chain-driven centrifugal oil cleaner
> hidden under the engine side cover.
> 1967 was the last year Honda built the early model single overhead cam
> Dreams, Superhawks and Scramblers.
>
Posted by Anthony W on July 26, 2005, 12:18 am
dfdsf wrote:
> how do i know if it is a cl 72, or cl 77, cb xx etc,?
The CB77 has the engine as a stressed member of a tube frame (no down
tubes in front of the engine.)
The CL77 has a single down tube that joins a bent tube just in front of
the engine that leaves no room for an electric starter.
Tony
Posted by kriyamanna on July 26, 2005, 2:23 am
dfdsf wrote:
> how do i know if it is a cl 72, or cl 77, cb xx etc,?
The engine number will probably reveal what it is. When I needed parts
for my C71 the dealer wouldn't even look into his parts manuals without
the engine number.
When I bought the C71 it was a weird private party deal with the
machine on the showroom floor. The owner was a mechanic at the Honda
$tealer$hip. He was trying to tell me that the machine he was selling
me was a quart low on oil, and he pulled the cap off the oil tank with
the engine running and the scavenge pump was squirting oil into the
bottom of the empty tank. He told me that as long as I saw oil
squirting into the tank I hadn't hurt the engine. I didn't understand
what he was saying at all.
So I ran around for three weeks with half a quart of oil in the engine.
I rode it up to Santa Barbara and down to Palm Springs, as I tried to
take it to Florida. The engine quit around Thousand Palms with a hole
in one piston. I still had one piston working, so I rode it 200 miles
home on one lung.
Later on, I learned that the guy who'd sold me the motorbike with half
a quart of oil in it had been killed in a plane crash. I wonder if he
remembered to check his oil before take off...
> know nothing about it other than it has 305 engine and this one is
> beautiful. Any info, or leads to where I can find some info would be greatly
> appreciated.