Posted by Konrad Viltersten on November 7, 2007, 12:39 am
I'm wondering if it's a good idea to engine brake
if it's slipper on the road. The way i'm reasoning,
the wheels shouldn't loose traction since the
slowing down force is not applied by rubbing the
tires on the pavement but rather "somebody" pulling
you back. That "somebody" being of course the
engine momentum being kept up.
What do the experts say?
Konrad
Posted by Timberwoof on November 7, 2007, 12:26 am
> I'm wondering if it's a good idea to engine brake
> if it's slipper on the road. The way i'm reasoning,
> the wheels shouldn't loose traction since the
> slowing down force is not applied by rubbing the
> tires on the pavement but rather "somebody" pulling
> you back. That "somebody" being of course the
> engine momentum being kept up.
>
> What do the experts say?
First, even with engine braking, the braking force is transmitted
through the tire. The tire and the rest of the motorcycle can't tell the
difference between engine braking and brake braking.
Second, engine braking applies only to the rear wheel. You could lock up
the rear wheel, which has problems of its own.
The total amount of traction available for any purpose‹braking,
steering, accelerating‹is diminished in the rain. The proper technique
is to be smooth on the controls: don't accelerate so much; don't go so
fast; don't brake so hard; don't steer so tightly.
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Posted by Ken Abrams on November 7, 2007, 8:32 am
> The total amount of traction available for any purpose > steering,
> accelerating > is to be smooth on the controls: don't accelerate so much;
> don't go so
> fast; don't brake so hard; don't steer so tightly.
And the "don't brake so hard" includes engine braking.
Staying in a higher gear than "normal" helps with going and stopping in
slick conditions.
Posted by Tom K. on November 7, 2007, 11:56 am
>> I'm wondering if it's a good idea to engine brake
>> if it's slipper on the road. The way i'm reasoning,
>> the wheels shouldn't loose traction since the
>> slowing down force is not applied by rubbing the
>> tires on the pavement but rather "somebody" pulling
>> you back. That "somebody" being of course the
>> engine momentum being kept up.
>>
>> What do the experts say?
> First, even with engine braking, the braking force is transmitted
> through the tire. The tire and the rest of the motorcycle can't tell the
> difference between engine braking and brake braking.
> Second, engine braking applies only to the rear wheel. You could lock up
> the rear wheel, which has problems of its own.
> The total amount of traction available for any purpose > steering,
> accelerating > is to be smooth on the controls: don't accelerate so much;
> don't go so
> fast; don't brake so hard; don't steer so tightly.
Exactly. Plus if you are in traffic, your brake light will warn the cagers
behind you.
Tom K.
Posted by Konrad Viltersten on November 7, 2007, 3:19 pm
Tom K. skrev:
>>
>>> I'm wondering if it's a good idea to engine brake
>>> if it's slipper on the road. The way i'm reasoning,
>>> the wheels shouldn't loose traction since the
>>> slowing down force is not applied by rubbing the
>>> tires on the pavement but rather "somebody" pulling
>>> you back. That "somebody" being of course the
>>> engine momentum being kept up.
>>>
>>> What do the experts say?
>> First, even with engine braking, the braking force is transmitted
>> through the tire. The tire and the rest of the motorcycle can't tell the
>> difference between engine braking and brake braking.
>>
>> Second, engine braking applies only to the rear wheel. You could lock up
>> the rear wheel, which has problems of its own.
>>
>> The total amount of traction available for any purpose > steering,
>> accelerating > is to be smooth on the controls: don't accelerate so much;
>> don't go so
>> fast; don't brake so hard; don't steer so tightly.
>>
>
> Exactly. Plus if you are in traffic, your brake light will warn the cagers
> behind you.
Got it. However, that's never an issue. When i'm
heading for work, there are no cars on the road.
Konrad
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> if it's slipper on the road. The way i'm reasoning,
> the wheels shouldn't loose traction since the
> slowing down force is not applied by rubbing the
> tires on the pavement but rather "somebody" pulling
> you back. That "somebody" being of course the
> engine momentum being kept up.
>
> What do the experts say?