Posted by David M. Vittorio on January 12, 2006, 12:21 pm
Anyone know if Schwarzenegger had a CA permit (no test requred)?
I searched these news articles but didn't find mention of the permit:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/localnews/ci_3394817
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/13607718.htm
http://thaspot.thuglifearmy.com/blogs/roberts_blog/archive/2006/01/11/397.aspx
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/10/schwarzeneggar.license.ap/index.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id 95840
http://www.kcra.com/news/6008844/detail.html
http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2006/01/11/news/09terminator.txt
It's interesting when the ridiculous CA DMV motorcycle lollipop test
is so dificult that even the head of the police doesn't bother to
attempt the acknowledged keyhole circus act (he'd be a fool if he did
as the only ones who pass the keyhole on a Harley are those who judge
themselves).
It's even more revealing when the head of the police finds the 4-day
(two evenings, and all weekend) CHP babysitting MSF class so useless
for an experienced rider that it isn't worth his time to just pay the
200 dollar bribe to sit thru the mundane inanity of the class.
Since one can legally ride forever in California (with only 3
restrictions) without ever passing any riding test (just keep paying
the annual permit fees & submit to an eye exam & picture every year),
does anyone know if Arnold even bothered to obtain the California
motorcycle permit?
Posted by kegler@bowling.net on January 12, 2006, 12:29 pm
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:21:38 GMT, David M. Vittorio
>Anyone know if Schwarzenegger had a CA permit (no test requred)?
>I searched these news articles but didn't find mention of the permit:
>http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/localnews/ci_3394817
>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/13607718.htm
>http://thaspot.thuglifearmy.com/blogs/roberts_blog/archive/2006/01/11/397.aspx
>http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/10/schwarzeneggar.license.ap/index.html
>http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id 95840
>http://www.kcra.com/news/6008844/detail.html
>http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2006/01/11/news/09terminator.txt
>It's interesting when the ridiculous CA DMV motorcycle lollipop test
>is so dificult that even the head of the police doesn't bother to
>attempt the acknowledged keyhole circus act (he'd be a fool if he did
>as the only ones who pass the keyhole on a Harley are those who judge
>themselves).
>It's even more revealing when the head of the police finds the 4-day
>(two evenings, and all weekend) CHP babysitting MSF class so useless
>for an experienced rider that it isn't worth his time to just pay the
>200 dollar bribe to sit thru the mundane inanity of the class.
>Since one can legally ride forever in California (with only 3
>restrictions) without ever passing any riding test (just keep paying
>the annual permit fees & submit to an eye exam & picture every year),
>does anyone know if Arnold even bothered to obtain the California
>motorcycle permit?
no, he did not. According to reports, he "just forgot". However, he
could not be cited for not having a motorcycle license becuase under
California law, you are not required to have a motorcycle endorsement
on your drivers license if you have a sidecar attached. Which, in
this instance, he did.
Personally, I think that's about the dumbest law I've ever heard.
Attaching a sidecar to a bike doesn't change the skill level to
operate a motorcycle. In fact it's usually *harder* to operate a
mororcycle with a sidecar.
Posted by PC Paul on January 12, 2006, 12:42 pm
kegler@bowling.net wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:21:38 GMT, David M. Vittorio
>
>
>>Anyone know if Schwarzenegger had a CA permit (no test requred)?
>>
>>I searched these news articles but didn't find mention of the permit:
>>http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/localnews/ci_3394817
>>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/13607718.htm
>>http://thaspot.thuglifearmy.com/blogs/roberts_blog/archive/2006/01/11/397.aspx
>>http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/10/schwarzeneggar.license.ap/index.html
>>http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id 95840
>>http://www.kcra.com/news/6008844/detail.html
>>http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2006/01/11/news/09terminator.txt
>>
>>It's interesting when the ridiculous CA DMV motorcycle lollipop test
>>is so dificult that even the head of the police doesn't bother to
>>attempt the acknowledged keyhole circus act (he'd be a fool if he did
>>as the only ones who pass the keyhole on a Harley are those who judge
>>themselves).
>>
>>It's even more revealing when the head of the police finds the 4-day
>>(two evenings, and all weekend) CHP babysitting MSF class so useless
>>for an experienced rider that it isn't worth his time to just pay the
>>200 dollar bribe to sit thru the mundane inanity of the class.
>>
>>Since one can legally ride forever in California (with only 3
>>restrictions) without ever passing any riding test (just keep paying
>>the annual permit fees & submit to an eye exam & picture every year),
>>does anyone know if Arnold even bothered to obtain the California
>>motorcycle permit?
>
>
>
> no, he did not. According to reports, he "just forgot". However, he
> could not be cited for not having a motorcycle license becuase under
> California law, you are not required to have a motorcycle endorsement
> on your drivers license if you have a sidecar attached. Which, in
> this instance, he did.
>
> Personally, I think that's about the dumbest law I've ever heard.
> Attaching a sidecar to a bike doesn't change the skill level to
> operate a motorcycle. In fact it's usually *harder* to operate a
> mororcycle with a sidecar.
>
>
>
DMV code (and most laws in general) and logic are usually mutually
exclusive.
--
PC Paul
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society" - Theodore Roosevelt
Posted by blazing laser on January 12, 2006, 12:50 pm
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:29:14 GMT, "kegler@bowling.net" <nospammers dot
nospam dot net> wrote:
>no, he did not. According to reports, he "just forgot".
Also a learner's permit is only good for a year. Arnold's been riding
longer than that.
> However, he
>could not be cited for not having a motorcycle license becuase under
>California law, you are not required to have a motorcycle endorsement
>on your drivers license if you have a sidecar attached. Which, in
>this instance, he did.
>Personally, I think that's about the dumbest law I've ever heard.
>Attaching a sidecar to a bike doesn't change the skill level to
>operate a motorcycle. In fact it's usually *harder* to operate a
>mororcycle with a sidecar.
It's a quirk in the law. The legal definition of a 'motorcycle' is a
2-wheeled vehicle. A 3-wheeled vehicle could be a bike with a sidecar
or a 'trike' or even a 3-wheeled car like the Corbin Sparrow.
A 3-wheeled vehicle is stable on the ground, it doesn't require
balance to operate like a bicycle or motorcycle, so the CA vehicle
code lumps it in with cars rather than create a whole separate
category. Actually it -is- a special category in a way. If it's
under 1500 lbs, it is a car in some respects and a motorcycle in
others.
I wouldn't say a sidecar is harder to drive than a bike. It's a
different skill, though.
Posted by Steve on January 12, 2006, 5:07 pm
| It's a quirk in the law. The legal definition of a
'motorcycle' is a
| 2-wheeled vehicle. A 3-wheeled vehicle could be a bike
with a sidecar
| or a 'trike' or even a 3-wheeled car like the Corbin
Sparrow.
|
| A 3-wheeled vehicle is stable on the ground, it doesn't
require
| balance to operate like a bicycle or motorcycle, so the CA
vehicle
| code lumps it in with cars rather than create a whole
separate
| category. Actually it -is- a special category in a way.
If it's
| under 1500 lbs, it is a car in some respects and a
motorcycle in
| others.
|
| I wouldn't say a sidecar is harder to drive than a bike.
It's a
| different skill, though.
|
To some extent I would agree with that. My
experience with sidecar is very limited, but it certainly is
different to ride. -- steve
>I searched these news articles but didn't find mention of the permit:
>http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/localnews/ci_3394817
>http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/13607718.htm
>http://thaspot.thuglifearmy.com/blogs/roberts_blog/archive/2006/01/11/397.aspx
>http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/10/schwarzeneggar.license.ap/index.html
>http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id 95840
>http://www.kcra.com/news/6008844/detail.html
>http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2006/01/11/news/09terminator.txt
>It's interesting when the ridiculous CA DMV motorcycle lollipop test
>is so dificult that even the head of the police doesn't bother to
>attempt the acknowledged keyhole circus act (he'd be a fool if he did
>as the only ones who pass the keyhole on a Harley are those who judge
>themselves).
>It's even more revealing when the head of the police finds the 4-day
>(two evenings, and all weekend) CHP babysitting MSF class so useless
>for an experienced rider that it isn't worth his time to just pay the
>200 dollar bribe to sit thru the mundane inanity of the class.
>Since one can legally ride forever in California (with only 3
>restrictions) without ever passing any riding test (just keep paying
>the annual permit fees & submit to an eye exam & picture every year),
>does anyone know if Arnold even bothered to obtain the California
>motorcycle permit?