Posted by Old F-100 on June 30, 2007, 7:07 pm
I am looking at a 69 450 and a 75 360 ... are parts (readily) available
for these - and, if so, where would be the best place to look for them
... I'm in the Phoenix area ... plus, does anyone have experience with
the CBs? I had a friend who had one 30 some years ago and it was great
... are they considered good bikes these days? It would not be a daily
driver ... thanks!!
Posted by Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com on June 30, 2007, 8:20 pm
Old F-100 wrote:
>I am looking at a 69 450 and a 75 360 ... are parts (readily) available
>for these - and, if so, where would be the best place to look for them
>... I'm in the Phoenix area ...
Can you google? Does "new old stock" mean anything to you? How about
"aftermarket replacement" or "OEM"?
http://www.vjmc.com/ is a club for people who are crazy about old Jap bikes.
www.ohiocycle.com/ has NOS
https://www.carbkitscapital.com has aftermarket and OEM parts.
www.oldbikebarn.com has after market parts.
www.bikebandit.com has aftermarket and OEM parts.
www.partsfish.com has aftermarket and OEM parts.
www.mawonline.com lists most brand names as well as listing the websites of
all the manufacturers.
www.denniskirk.com lists all sorts of aftermarket parts for Hondas and cross
references interchangeable parts.
plus, does anyone have experience with
>the CBs?
You're kidding. Nobody ever saw a CB350, CB360, CB450, CB500, etc. They were
very rare. For instance, Honda only made 25 million CB350's, so they are
extremely rare, and nobody has any idea of how to work on them ;-)
>... are they considered good bikes these days?
Only if you're crazy about old Honda vibrators. ;-)
>It would not be a daily driver
Correct. Unless you like a vibrating motorcycle.
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Posted by Bike Guy Joe on July 2, 2007, 6:42 pm
> I am looking at a 69 450 and a 75 360 ... are parts (readily) available
> for these - and, if so, where would be the best place to look for them
> ... I'm in the Phoenix area ... plus, does anyone have experience with
> the CBs? I had a friend who had one 30 some years ago and it was great
> ... are they considered good bikes these days? It would not be a daily
> driver ... thanks!!
For resale or pure collectors value, go for the 450. For a nice light
rider go for the 360. Both are good bikes and parts are readily
available.
They don't vibrate THAT MUCH.....albrecht must be a post Goldwing-era
rider if he thinks either of those bike vibrate!
Posted by Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com on July 2, 2007, 7:24 pm
Bike Guy Joe wrote:
> They don't vibrate THAT MUCH
The Hondas that the OP is interested in vibrate less than an old British
parallel twin of equal displacement because they have 180 degree crankshafts.
CB360T has a 180 degree crankshaft
http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id#25742
CB450K2 has a 180 degree crankshaft
http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id#14455
CL450K2 has a 180 degree crankshaft
http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id#14581
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_balance
A straight twin engine may have a simple single-throw crankshaft, with both
pistons at top dead centre simultaneously. For a four-stroke engine, this
gives the best possible firing sequence, with one cylinder firing per
revolution, equally spaced. But it also gives the worst possible mechanical
balance, no better than a single cylinder engine.
Many straight twin engines therefore have an offset angle crankshaft, that is,
two throws at an angle of up to 180°, with the result that the pistons reach
top dead centre at different times. This produces better mechanical balance,
but at the cost of uneven firing.
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Posted by Bike Guy Joe on July 4, 2007, 6:43 am
> Bike Guy Joe wrote:
> > They don't vibrate THAT MUCH
> The Hondas that the OP is interested in vibrate less than an old British
> parallel twin of equal displacement because they have 180 degree crankshafts.
> CB360T has a 180 degree crankshaft
> http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id=2325742
> CB450K2 has a 180 degree crankshaft
> http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id=2314455
> CL450K2 has a 180 degree crankshaft
> http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/showschematic.asp?dept_id=2314581
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_balance
> A straight twin engine may have a simple single-throw crankshaft, with both
> pistons at top dead centre simultaneously. For a four-stroke engine, this
> gives the best possible firing sequence, with one cylinder firing per
> revolution, equally spaced. But it also gives the worst possible mechanical
> balance, no better than a single cylinder engine.
> Many straight twin engines therefore have an offset angle crankshaft, that is,
> two throws at an angle of up to 180°, with the result that the pistons reach
> top dead centre at different times. This produces better mechanical balance,
> but at the cost of uneven firing.
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Exactly what I said, only with a lot more links.
>for these - and, if so, where would be the best place to look for them
>... I'm in the Phoenix area ...