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Key Doesn't Work Disk Brake Lock td 06-09-2008
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Posted by P. Roehling on June 9, 2008, 5:10 pm


> Those darned disks _should_ be able to go through hardened steel.

They will, but you'll usually break a bunch of them in the process.

For better results, use the fiberglass-reinforced cutoff wheels sold through
Micro-Mark; they last quite a while.

Google Micro Mark and search under cutoff wheels.




Posted by Jerry on June 9, 2008, 5:35 pm


>> Has anyone had this problem before? How can I get the dang lock from
>> the hole in the disk brake? It's the Bully brand. Can I maybe drill
>> through the key cylinder, drilling the guts out of it? I'm afraid to do
>> this before getting some advice because I don't want to worsen the
>> problem.
>>
>> This is the last time I'll use one these type of locks.
>
> As general advice with locks, avoid mixing wet and dry lubricants, and go
> "dry" whenever possible. If you get the thing to work, clean it out with
> tuner cleaner or something to remove any oil then pump it full of dry
> graphite.
>
> The other poster's advice about making sure the key is in fully is valid.
>
> If none of that works ...
>
> I'd avoid blow-torching it or hammering it because of the brake disk. I
> don't know for sure how it would work on hardened steel, but the best luck
> I've had for surgical operations was to use a Dremel Moto Tool with one of
> the abrasive cutting wheels. If you have an accessible point of attack
> (something without a huge cross section you can cut through that will get
> the lock off), mask the area around to prevent the dust from getting
> everywhere then go after it with a full package of those cutting disks and
> a Moto Tool. It might take you 30 minutes, but it will be worth it if you
> don't damage anything else.
>
> Those darned disks _should_ be able to go through hardened steel.
>
> The Moto Tool works great because it is a fine instrument and makes about
> as much vibration as a dental drill.
>
> An angle grinder would probably get it off, too, but that is a rather
> coarse tool and makes a lot of vibration and you might still damage
> something.
>
> Some of the Dremel accessories are here:
>
> http://www.hobbylinc.com/prods/rbp_dre.htm
>
> You can typically get 10-30 of those cutting wheels cheap at a place like
> Lowe's.
>
> The wheels are consumable (they wear), so if you try this get the biggest
> package of them you can.
>
> The experience I had doing that was when a friend brought home clothing
> where the cashier had forgotten to remove the anti-shoplifting device. It
> was a challenge to get through the steel without blowing the pressurized
> dye cartridges. Moto-tool did just fine.
>

I would use my dremmel tool on it as a first and only response to taking it
off if the key really would not take it off. Mine really did mess up so bad
that I thought it was broken and would have to be cut off. After a lengthy
cool down, I discovered the key was not inserting fully


Posted by on June 10, 2008, 9:25 am
wrote:

>> Has anyone had this problem before? How can I get the dang lock from
>> the hole in the disk brake? It's the Bully brand. Can I maybe drill
>> through the key cylinder, drilling the guts out of it? I'm afraid to do
>> this before getting some advice because I don't want to worsen the
>> problem.
>>
>> This is the last time I'll use one these type of locks.
>
>As general advice with locks, avoid mixing wet and dry lubricants, and go
>"dry" whenever possible. If you get the thing to work, clean it out with
>tuner cleaner or something to remove any oil then pump it full of dry
>graphite.
>
>The other poster's advice about making sure the key is in fully is valid.
>
>If none of that works ...
>
>I'd avoid blow-torching it or hammering it because of the brake disk. I
>don't know for sure how it would work on hardened steel, but the best luck
>I've had for surgical operations was to use a Dremel Moto Tool with one of
>the abrasive cutting wheels. If you have an accessible point of attack
>(something without a huge cross section you can cut through that will get
>the lock off), mask the area around to prevent the dust from getting
>everywhere then go after it with a full package of those cutting disks and a
>Moto Tool. It might take you 30 minutes, but it will be worth it if you
>don't damage anything else.
>
>Those darned disks _should_ be able to go through hardened steel.
>
>The Moto Tool works great because it is a fine instrument and makes about as
>much vibration as a dental drill.
>
>An angle grinder would probably get it off, too, but that is a rather coarse
>tool and makes a lot of vibration and you might still damage something.
>
>Some of the Dremel accessories are here:
>
>http://www.hobbylinc.com/prods/rbp_dre.htm
>
>You can typically get 10-30 of those cutting wheels cheap at a place like
>Lowe's.
>
>The wheels are consumable (they wear), so if you try this get the biggest
>package of them you can.
>
>The experience I had doing that was when a friend brought home clothing
>where the cashier had forgotten to remove the anti-shoplifting device. It
>was a challenge to get through the steel without blowing the pressurized dye
>cartridges. Moto-tool did just fine.

I kept fooling with the damn thing on and off for a few hours before
trying cutting or drilling out the guts. I got lucky. Somewhere around
the 500th try the damn lock opened up. It is now on it's way to the city
landfill.

NEVER will I ever trust one of those damn things again. At least with a
chain I could call on a pair of super bolt cutters. I'd hate to have had
this happen a long way from home.

Thanks to all with the serious answers.
>


Posted by Jerry on June 10, 2008, 10:10 am


> wrote:
>
>>> Has anyone had this problem before? How can I get the dang lock from
>>> the hole in the disk brake? It's the Bully brand. Can I maybe drill
>>> through the key cylinder, drilling the guts out of it? I'm afraid to do
>>> this before getting some advice because I don't want to worsen the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> This is the last time I'll use one these type of locks.
>>
>>As general advice with locks, avoid mixing wet and dry lubricants, and go
>>"dry" whenever possible. If you get the thing to work, clean it out with
>>tuner cleaner or something to remove any oil then pump it full of dry
>>graphite.
>>
>>The other poster's advice about making sure the key is in fully is valid.
>>
>>If none of that works ...
>>
>>I'd avoid blow-torching it or hammering it because of the brake disk. I
>>don't know for sure how it would work on hardened steel, but the best luck
>>I've had for surgical operations was to use a Dremel Moto Tool with one of
>>the abrasive cutting wheels. If you have an accessible point of attack
>>(something without a huge cross section you can cut through that will get
>>the lock off), mask the area around to prevent the dust from getting
>>everywhere then go after it with a full package of those cutting disks and
>>a
>>Moto Tool. It might take you 30 minutes, but it will be worth it if you
>>don't damage anything else.
>>
>>Those darned disks _should_ be able to go through hardened steel.
>>
>>The Moto Tool works great because it is a fine instrument and makes about
>>as
>>much vibration as a dental drill.
>>
>>An angle grinder would probably get it off, too, but that is a rather
>>coarse
>>tool and makes a lot of vibration and you might still damage something.
>>
>>Some of the Dremel accessories are here:
>>
>>http://www.hobbylinc.com/prods/rbp_dre.htm
>>
>>You can typically get 10-30 of those cutting wheels cheap at a place like
>>Lowe's.
>>
>>The wheels are consumable (they wear), so if you try this get the biggest
>>package of them you can.
>>
>>The experience I had doing that was when a friend brought home clothing
>>where the cashier had forgotten to remove the anti-shoplifting device. It
>>was a challenge to get through the steel without blowing the pressurized
>>dye
>>cartridges. Moto-tool did just fine.
>
> I kept fooling with the damn thing on and off for a few hours before
> trying cutting or drilling out the guts. I got lucky. Somewhere around
> the 500th try the damn lock opened up. It is now on it's way to the city
> landfill.
>
> NEVER will I ever trust one of those damn things again. At least with a
> chain I could call on a pair of super bolt cutters. I'd hate to have had
> this happen a long way from home.
>
> Thanks to all with the serious answers.
>>
>

I suspect that if you had kept it, and messed with it, you would have found
that the key just needed to be inserted properly. That is what I, and others
have found to be the case. At least with a chain, the thieves can use bolt
cutters to get your bike.


Posted by Who Me? on June 10, 2008, 11:25 am


>> Thanks to all with the serious answers.
>>>

Here's another serious answer: Please TRIM YOUR QUOTES............Td too!



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