Posted by Andrew on March 14, 2005, 1:40 pm
Albert Nurick wrote:
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>>I was wondering if anyone can give any opinions on what type of bike I
>>should be buying. I just got my licence and have no experience other
>>than the course I took.
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> Did you take the MSF course? That's a great first step.
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>>The course advised I get a 500cc or smaller standard bike to start
>>with. I went to the dealership to look at a couple and the salesman
>>said that they wouldn’t work. Problem is I’m 6’4 and 290lbs. The
>>salesman told me I needed to buy at least 1000cc or I wouldn’t even be
>>able to move.
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> He's a salesman. He makes more money on a more expensive bike. Unless
> proven otherwise, assume you can tell a salesman is lying whenever his lips
> are moving.
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My opinion has changed on this topic.
I believe they make the most money (dealers) on used starter bikes.
Try and find a Yamaha Seca II around here for less than 3K at a
dealership. I talked to a dealer once about this and he said they
couldn't BUY enough starter bikes. It seems to me a goodly portion of
their sales / profits each year must be beginners bikes.
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Posted by Albert Nurick on March 14, 2005, 2:41 pm
> My opinion has changed on this topic.
> I believe they make the most money (dealers) on used starter bikes.
I'm sure they make something, but I'd bet that there's less profit in a $3K
bike than any H-D, Goldwing, BMW, or large cruiser.
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Posted by Andrew on March 14, 2005, 2:56 pm
Albert Nurick wrote:
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>>My opinion has changed on this topic.
>>I believe they make the most money (dealers) on used starter bikes.
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> I'm sure they make something, but I'd bet that there's less profit in a $3K
> bike than any H-D, Goldwing, BMW, or large cruiser.
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Not to disagree, but say they sell 5 of those a month.
How many beginner bikes do you think they sell for each one of those big
expensive bikes?
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Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
Posted by Albert Nurick on March 14, 2005, 3:10 pm
> Albert Nurick wrote:
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>>>My opinion has changed on this topic.
>>>I believe they make the most money (dealers) on used starter bikes.
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>> I'm sure they make something, but I'd bet that there's less profit in
>> a $3K bike than any H-D, Goldwing, BMW, or large cruiser.
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> Not to disagree, but say they sell 5 of those a month.
> How many beginner bikes do you think they sell for each one of those
> big expensive bikes?
In either case, no more than one per customer, which is why I think
salesmen direct buyers to more expensive bikes.
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Posted by Andrew on March 14, 2005, 3:28 pm
Albert Nurick wrote:
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>>Albert Nurick wrote:
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>>>>My opinion has changed on this topic.
>>>>I believe they make the most money (dealers) on used starter bikes.
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>>>I'm sure they make something, but I'd bet that there's less profit in
>>>a $3K bike than any H-D, Goldwing, BMW, or large cruiser.
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>>Not to disagree, but say they sell 5 of those a month.
>>How many beginner bikes do you think they sell for each one of those
>>big expensive bikes?
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> In either case, no more than one per customer, which is why I think
> salesmen direct buyers to more expensive bikes.
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I wish I could see stats on this. It is an interesting discussion.
I know dealers in the car market make more $$ on used cars than they do
on 0%, no down loans with no profit margin after rebates.
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Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
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>>I was wondering if anyone can give any opinions on what type of bike I
>>should be buying. I just got my licence and have no experience other
>>than the course I took.
>
>
> Did you take the MSF course? That's a great first step.
>
>
>>The course advised I get a 500cc or smaller standard bike to start
>>with. I went to the dealership to look at a couple and the salesman
>>said that they wouldn’t work. Problem is I’m 6’4 and 290lbs. The
>>salesman told me I needed to buy at least 1000cc or I wouldn’t even be
>>able to move.
>
>
> He's a salesman. He makes more money on a more expensive bike. Unless
> proven otherwise, assume you can tell a salesman is lying whenever his lips
> are moving.
>