Re: Panel repair/theft deterrence

 


    I like your thinking, nip it in the bud, send a "message" to all
vandals, but in a city were a lot of space is "disputably"  somewhat shared,
it's difficult to burn the Vandals, and not expect quite a trip in Court$..

    Some M/C alarmas are hard to disguise without a catch22 compromise of
some sort...the Gorilla Alarm I have is too bulky for a good skulking
location...on a puffy Maj400.

    I Multi chain and use a well Lit, Remote Door Parking Lot Corner and a
Grungy Cover....

    I have had over 103 attacks on my last Scooter Honda ch250, all by the
same Vandal, and the Deductibles and Insurance came to some $50,000.00 in a
10year period....

    The Chains and Vetter Alarms on the Honda ch250 did not help either,
since the Vandal had an escape route closeby.

Bob


|>Alarm it and get a gun? Noise goes off...then so does your gun.
|>Make sure you know your states laws and to do it ON you property. The city
|>will pick the cadaver(s) up for free!!
|>
|>If you can U-Lock it in your yard (to an extremely solid post/base of
|>course) then check out the
|>Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U-lock, $89.95
|>
|>Again, given time - any thief or crew can get an item. Trick is to not
|>give'em time (preferred method: shoot 'em dead and minimize it's population.
|>That's how we do.
|>
|>
|>> That sucks, that's gotta cost some $ repairing.
|>> Where do you live btw?  I'd like to avoid it.
|>>
|>> 2nd attempt? I dunno but I'd find a new place to put it asap. Pay for a
|>> safer spot?
|>> If they want to take it they're eventually gonna if given the time.
|>>
|>> Maybe alarm it (just to make some noise at least, others will ignore it
|>> but you prob won't if you hear it) and the best cable/lock you can
|>> find/pay for (not some basic padlock and cable/chain) - chained to
|>> something solid.
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>>>I have an 87 Honda Elite 150 which survived a botched attempt at
|>>> stealing it. Unfortunately the front panel was not so lucky, as the
|>>> thieves had bolt cutters but apparently not a screwdriver and they
|>>> ripped it off - leaving a small piece still attached to the bolt. I've
|>>> been keeping an eye out on ebay but I've never seen anything. Does
|>>> anyone know what I could use to reattach the broken pieces? Also, what
|>>> anti-theft strategies do you use? This is the second attempted theft
|>>> of my scoot out of my front yard - I live in the city so there's not
|>>> much room besides on the sidewalk. Is there a brand or type of lock
|>>> which offers better resistance?
|>>>
|>>
|>>
|>

 


|>About the use of violence - I have to admit I did feel a lot of anger
|>towards whoever tried stealing it - to the point where I wanted to
|>hurt them. Now that some time has passed I've calmed down somewhat -
|>but I still want to catch the person. I'm considering "staking out"
|>the scooter with some of my friends - leaving it unlocked outside and

    That's construed as entrapment wereas you need a large gang like the
police to exercise this BaitCar method...they have lawyers and judges paid by
your tax dollars.....for that piviledge.

|>hiding where I can still see it. Then calling police if I see anyone
|>messing with it. I'd like to take a taser to them too, but I don't
|>have one!<<<<

    Taser/toaster is cool if you can afford $40 a shot, but there would
likely be more than assailant on your property....
|>
|>Nah, it's easier than you think. Think of it as an extended "hey, leave that
|>alone - I'm warning you" (only quicker and more effective).
|>Practice firing into a sandbag for a week. It's the only thing I think guns
|>are useful for - protecting your family/stuff. Ammo is cheap! and the body
|>bag is billed to the city.
|>Do make sure to do it on YOUR property though.
|>
|>Call police?  They'll be there 1/2 hour after it's gone. I promise.
|>
|>Or really, move somewhere more condusive to keeping a scoot on the lawn?
|>Like a new place with a garage (who wants to pay in-city prices anyway?)
|>

    I think so too, we're back to square one, but if you fire a warning shot
like it maay work better in some cases, depending on your state laws....but even
after firing a warning shot, the police may take all your guns....leaving you
defenseless for a week or so....bad news there heh....aren't they smart....maybe
get local Hells Angels logo on your Scooter Cover (if you know the thieves
aren't HO.A....?), nobody steals their bikes unless they are bigger criminal
organisation than they are, and there are many.........

 



Nope.  NOT entrapment.  Legally, entrapment is when you entice someone to
commit a crime they had no previous intention of committing.  Merely parking
your legal property and leaving it unattended is not entrapment.  Entrapment
would be walking up to someone on the street who is minding their own
business and pointing out that the scooter is unlocked and saying, "How
about helping me steal that scooter."   I would say to have video cameras
running and to keep the bike from being driven off, disable the engine or
starter.  I'd resist the temptation to try to capture the thieves
personally.  You don't know just how hard or violently they might resist.
Your scooter is not worth your life.   Instead, while they are trying to
steal it, call the cops, tell them the theft is "in progress" and when they
arrive and bust the thieves, hand them the video.

 


steal it, call the cops, tell them the theft is "in progress" and when they
arrive and bust the thieves, hand them the video.<<<

Ha...riiiiiight!!
It's 2007, and you're dreaming.

I still say diminish the population - quickly and efficiently.

 



And become Big Leroy's bitch....