Posted by K Viltersten on April 12, 2008, 7:31 am
The above-all-and-supreme way of starting
the engine has got to be using the
electricity from the battery, i know.
Now, when the battery is dead - what is
the next best way?
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Posted by ~ on April 12, 2008, 1:20 pm
> Now, when the battery is dead - what is
> the next best way?
Remove the discharged battery and fully charge it, reinstall the fully
charged battery and start the motorcycle.
While using jumper cables attached to a car battery will work, it's
not the best idea in the world.
If the motorcycle is hard to start, the rider will just keep grinding
the starter, and that builds up excess heat inside the expen$ive
starter which cannot easily be dissipated.
Motorcycle starters are only supposed to be used to crank the engine
for five seconds or so, and the engine should start immediately. If it
doesn't, stop cranking and review the starting procedure mentally to
see if the choke or other starting device is working, let the starter
cool for five or ten seconds and try again.
I watched some stupid Mexicans (is there any other kind?) trying to
start a Yamaha by endlessly grinding the starter. I told them that a
new starter would cost $300 if they burned it out by continuous
cranking, but they continued to grind on the starter anyway, and were
still grinding on it half an hour later.
Another problem with jump starting a motorcycle from a car is that the
motorcycle alternator will have to charge both the motorcycle battery
AND the car battery, at least until you disconnect the jumper cables.
The motorcycle alternator is not designed to charge a relative huge
car battery, and the motorcycle battery, AND light the motorcycle
headlight at the same time.
The worst scenario I can think of is if the car battery is mostly
discharged and the poor morocycle alternator has to try to charge a 55
ampere hour car battery and a 14 ampere hour motorcycle battery at the
same time.
The plastic alternator connector is not designed to carry such heavy
current and you might melt it.
Posted by K Viltersten on April 13, 2008, 3:53 am
> Now, when the battery is dead - what is
> the next best way?
> Remove the discharged battery and fully
> charge it, reinstall the fully charged
> battery and start the motorcycle.
Suppose you've no charging means.
> While using jumper cables attached to a
> car battery will work, it's not the best
> idea in the world.
Suppose there's no other vehicle you could
put to use either.
My bike is up a short hill and i believe
that if i switch to first or second gear i
might be able to start it by rolling it.
However, i'll have only one shot because
the machine is heavy as an elephant i have
no wish excersizing pushing it up the hill
again. That's what gym is for... :)
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Konrad Viltersten
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Posted by Who Me? on April 13, 2008, 9:42 am
> My bike is up a short hill and i believe
> that if i switch to first or second gear i
> might be able to start it by rolling it.
That would be second or third gear. Set the choke, put it in gear, get it
rolling down the hill, jump on the seat and let out the clutch.
BUT.........
As long as we are playing "what if".........what if you do that and it
doesn't work; then what ??
Seems like you pretty much already had this figured out before you even
asked so let's stop playing, OK.
Just get some kind of battery, charger or vehicle to the top of the hill
where the bike is and do it up right.
Posted by K Viltersten on April 13, 2008, 10:38 am
>> My bike is up a short hill and i believe
>> that if i switch to first or second gear i
>> might be able to start it by rolling it.
>
> That would be second or third gear. Set the
> choke, put it in gear, get it rolling down
> the hill, jump on the seat and let out the
> clutch. As long as we are playing "what
> if"... what if you do that and it doesn't
> work; then what ??
>
> Seems like you pretty much already had this
> figured out before you even asked so let's
> stop playing, OK. Just get some kind of
> battery, charger or vehicle to the top of
> the hill where the bike is and do it up right.
Right, thanks!
Just to be more clear - is it better to go in
second or third gear?
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Konrad Viltersten
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> the next best way?