Yamy Majesty battery/fusebox

 
Also posted on  [yamahamajestyscooter] board:

    Here's one I recently just experienced, after changing the battery
to a "better"? one, it wouldn't start....

The Head lights and front markers didn't light up....

The Instrument panel lights up well.....

The motor cranked a bunch of times but no spark till I flooded the throttle
body "smelled gas"........

When I cranked the motor, the instrument panel's LCD display and Backlights
vanished.......  

I heard a relay "ratcheting"  near the gas tank/Ignition coil NOT the louder
Starter Relay....

    I'm thinking a bad battery, with only 12 volts and not
12.4v--->12.8v I forgot to check it when I went to the parking lot....I
forgot the multi-meter......but it looked good on the "float".....

    Does the Fuse Box cover detach from the side or the bottom, do you
pop it off, or is like a cell phone config were you pop it up and off the
hinges......????

Bob
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 declaimed the following in alt.scooter:


    1)    Was said battery fully charged? Most batteries are shipped dry,
and the shop/dealer often doesn't add the initial acid until they are
sold. The initial acid might give enough charge to start a vehicle, but
I wouldn't trust it -- when I bought a new battery in January, it spent
the night (~20 hours) attached to my charger to ensure it was up to
100%.

    2)    Did you clean any build up off the cable connections?
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 On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:08:25 -0700, Dennis Lee Bieber

|>declaimed the following in alt.scooter:
|>
|>>     Here's one I recently just experienced, after changing the battery
|>> to a "better"? one, it wouldn't start....
|>
|>    1)    Was said battery fully charged? Most batteries are shipped dry,
|>and the shop/dealer often doesn't add the initial acid until they are
|>sold. The initial acid might give enough charge to start a vehicle, but
|>I wouldn't trust it -- when I bought a new battery in January, it spent
|>the night (~20 hours) attached to my charger to ensure it was up to
|>100%.
|>
|>    2)    Did you clean any build up off the cable connections?

    The battery wasn't charged more than 12v, and had even dropped to
11.5v, so the ignition coil relay wasn't getting juice....

    Oh I noticed that the headlights don't come on until after the motor
starts, a convenient if not (120watt) necessary, I never noticed that part
since I usually check the rear lights most, and starting is usually a
snap...

    These MF(maintenance free) batteries, and there is no topping and
specific gravity tests anymore.....just MF (screwed).....modern shit....

    (~20 hours) attached to the charger, is not uncommon even some
without a float type charger, since some batteries go as low as 7 volts, but
recovering them is really low on amps.....

    They are usually used only if you have an all night "trickle"
charger, but if your parking on a parking lot like me, there is no chance in
finding an outlet......and if you find one the local jealous retarded vandal
will find a way to do wreck something, like the one lurking around my anal
orphus....they are usually bullshit rat fink fairy tellers on probation or
community work, to wreck havoc to generate police quotas....
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|>Bob wrote:
|>...
|>>
|>>     The battery wasn't charged more than 12v, and had even dropped to
|>> 11.5v, so the ignition coil relay wasn't getting juice....
|>> ...
|>
|>If you test a battery just after using it to start a bike, it will often
|>read lower than 12V for a few minutes.  One local dealer told me it

    Right!..I noticed that....

|>takes a couple of hours for them to charge a new battery, which inclines
|>me to just buy the battery and fill and charge it myself.  I'm guessing

    Right!..I noticed that....


|>they give it a fast charge at 3 or more amps which is not the best way
|>to charge a battery.  If I recall, Yuasa says to give their m/c
|>batteries at least 5 hours at 1.5 amps or so.  When a new battery has
|>just had the acid added, it will approach 12 volts but that number says
|>nothing about capacity.  In fact, a big marine battery that reads 12
|>volts can sometimes start a bike that a m/c battery that reads 12.4 can't.

    Right!..I noticed that....,

    Although since I use all kinds of charging methods, with all kinds
of chargers, it's hard to say what is best, other than trickle charge, as
they say a "big ass" charger is always just as good as the trickle
philosophy....

    I charge at regular indicated amps, and if nothing happens then I
use more till I get my "+/- 5 hour" results. Usually a "wall wart" Universal
charger, is good enuff at 12v reads (16-17) at .8amps reading (2amps) but it
takes some 10--->>20 hours with older batteries, whereas a trickle can take
a week.....which, if your a battery swapper is ok to leave on the charger at
home, and swap it out later....you can use your 12v UPS as a good charger
too, etc........

    The Majesty 400 is a bit of a bitch with all the panels to remove to
swap out  the battery....so I tend to dangle wires from my 2nd floor room,
to the back alley with a fairly powerful charger (- Lead Removed)...
    It took me 2 hours to charge a 1 volt with a 12v 6amp charger
once...some batts are quite stubborn...

    I don't really know about buckling cells on a small SLA Batt, but
they are stronger than the car battery cells...

    Once they drop to 8 volts, they are usually a 1 day battery, and
should be on an "overnight" battery minder.

    If you park on the streets or parking lot, there's no hope of that,
since electrical outlets are not too available there...at least, not in my
parking place