Posted by Timberwoof on September 29, 2008, 8:22 pm
Someone reading my FAQ wrote me this email...
> I was once told that counter steering is an illegal manuver in the U.S.
> This was made illegal in all states. The states governing this law
> created this long before the popularity and demands of motorcycling. Is
> this even close to truth and if so how do I find this law?
That's an interesting legend; I've never heard of that before.
Countersteering cannot be illegal because it it how you steer a
motorcycle. In fact, the California highway Patrol has approved the
curriculum of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Basic Rider Course,
which teaches countersteering. I'd like to know how a policeman is going
to prove one way or another whether a motorcyclist was countersteering.
Perhaps if the motorcyclist successfully initiated and completed a turn,
he gets written up? :-)
I suppose you could look up the word "countersteering" in your state's
online law web site. (Google for it.) California law doesn't mention th
word in either the Vehicle Code or the Streets & Highways Code.
Can anyone shed light on this notion?
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
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Posted by BryanUT on September 29, 2008, 8:31 pm
> Can anyone shed light on this notion?
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
Hook, line, sinker.
Good one, +10, don't fall for the troll.
I fell for one over on Craigslist (helments break necks,no less). I feel
dirty.
Posted by Vito on September 30, 2008, 9:01 am
> I fell for one over on Craigslist (helments break necks,no less). I feel
> dirty.
I crashed, totoling SWMBO's big Triumph bagger, a few years back. Didn't
put a scratch on my full face Shoi but did wrench my neck so badly that
pushing on my left ear made my right arm shoot out like a BMW piston. The
MDs did a scan and found two broken bones and more busted disks. Since the
helmet never hit anything one can only conclude that its weight caused some
of the breakage. Never say never.
Posted by Leszek Karlik on September 30, 2008, 9:09 am
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>> I fell for one over on Craigslist (helments break necks,no less). I
>> feel dirty.
> I crashed, totoling SWMBO's big Triumph bagger, a few years back. Didn't
> put a scratch on my full face Shoi but did wrench my neck so badly that
> pushing on my left ear made my right arm shoot out like a BMW piston. The
> MDs did a scan and found two broken bones and more busted disks. Since
> the helmet never hit anything one can only conclude that its weight
> caused some of the breakage. Never say never.
Now you only have to crash again in the identical manner without any
helmet,
and we'll be able to say whether the helmet was the cause of 1% of the
fractures,
10%, 50% or 90%. ;->
Although, considering the fact that your head probably weighs around 5 kg
and
your Shoei no more than 2 kg your head has most of the blame.
Heads break necks, people, so watch out when riding with your head on
your shoulders.
Leslie
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Leszek 'Leslie' Karlik
Posted by Vito on September 30, 2008, 1:15 pm
> Now you only have to crash again in the identical manner ...
Nope! You will have to do it. My neck is already broken so we'd need you new
one.
> Although, considering the fact that your head probably weighs around 5 kg
> and your Shoei no more than 2 kg your head has most of the blame.
OK. Assume the helmet was only responsible for one broken vertebra and my
head for the rest. I'd still have been better off without it since it
prevented no other injury. Or maybe if I'd had it on my knee I'd have
gotten less roadrash Right?
> This was made illegal in all states. The states governing this law
> created this long before the popularity and demands of motorcycling. Is
> this even close to truth and if so how do I find this law?