Posted by Jay Shaffer on July 27, 2005, 10:17 pm
Hi all my name is Jay, my son Doug and i are working on an old bike he
acquired from a neighbor just so he could get it out of his barn.
We have a 1978 Kawasaki 650. The problem we are having is the coil on the
right side of the motor melted. We put a new coil on it and it ran for about
20 minutes, would not run over 2000 rpms, then the right side coil melted
again. We made sure that we had spark on all four cylinders but it still
seemed when it was running that it was missing on at least one cylinder.
Also just to let you all know this bike has not run in approximately 2
years.
If anybody has any suggestions we would greatly appreciate it. Please when
replying to me email put "NEWS" in the subject or my spam control will
delete it.
Posted by Timberwoof on July 28, 2005, 12:40 am
> Hi all my name is Jay, my son Doug and i are working on an old bike he
> acquired from a neighbor just so he could get it out of his barn.
>
> We have a 1978 Kawasaki 650. The problem we are having is the coil on the
> right side of the motor melted. We put a new coil on it and it ran for about
> 20 minutes, would not run over 2000 rpms, then the right side coil melted
> again. We made sure that we had spark on all four cylinders but it still
> seemed when it was running that it was missing on at least one cylinder.
> Also just to let you all know this bike has not run in approximately 2
> years.
>
> If anybody has any suggestions we would greatly appreciate it. Please when
> replying to me email put "NEWS" in the subject or my spam control will
> delete it.
What could cause a coil to melt? Too much power through it. Perhaps a short in
the secondary circuit? Check the continuity and insulation of all the spark plug
cables ... it's probably easier and, given the bike's age, worthwhile to just
replace them.
Make sure the points are set correctly and that the condensers are in good
condition.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
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Posted by Anthony W on July 28, 2005, 2:16 am
Timberwoof wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all my name is Jay, my son Doug and i are working on an old bike he
>>acquired from a neighbor just so he could get it out of his barn.
>>
>>We have a 1978 Kawasaki 650. The problem we are having is the coil on the
>>right side of the motor melted. We put a new coil on it and it ran for about
>>20 minutes, would not run over 2000 rpms, then the right side coil melted
>>again. We made sure that we had spark on all four cylinders but it still
>>seemed when it was running that it was missing on at least one cylinder.
>>Also just to let you all know this bike has not run in approximately 2
>>years.
>>
>>If anybody has any suggestions we would greatly appreciate it. Please when
>>replying to me email put "NEWS" in the subject or my spam control will
>>delete it.
>
>
>
> What could cause a coil to melt? Too much power through it. Perhaps a short in
> the secondary circuit? Check the continuity and insulation of all the spark
plug
> cables ... it's probably easier and, given the bike's age, worthwhile to just
> replace them.
>
> Make sure the points are set correctly and that the condensers are in good
> condition.
The only thing I can think to add is to make sure the positive post of
the primary circuit goes to power and the negative side goes to the
points. Hooking up a coil backwards can cause a meltdown.
Tony
Posted by Timberwoof on July 28, 2005, 3:14 am
wrote:
> Timberwoof wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi all my name is Jay, my son Doug and i are working on an old bike he
> >>acquired from a neighbor just so he could get it out of his barn.
> >>
> >>We have a 1978 Kawasaki 650. The problem we are having is the coil on the
> >>right side of the motor melted. We put a new coil on it and it ran for
> >>about 20 minutes, would not run over 2000 rpms, then the right side coil
> >>melted again. We made sure that we had spark on all four cylinders but it
> >>still seemed when it was running that it was missing on at least one
> >>cylinder. Also just to let you all know this bike has not run in
> >>approximately 2 years.
> >>
> >>If anybody has any suggestions we would greatly appreciate it. Please when
> >>replying to me email put "NEWS" in the subject or my spam control will
> >>delete it.
> >
> >
> >
> > What could cause a coil to melt? Too much power through it. Perhaps a short
> > in the secondary circuit? Check the continuity and insulation of all the
> > spark plug cables ... it's probably easier and, given the bike's age,
> > worthwhile to just replace them.
> >
> > Make sure the points are set correctly and that the condensers are in good
> > condition.
>
> The only thing I can think to add is to make sure the positive post of the
> primary circuit goes to power and the negative side goes to the points.
> Hooking up a coil backwards can cause a meltdown.
In inline-four motorcycles, there are frequently two coils, one for cylinders 1
and 4 and one for cylinders 2 and 3. The secondary circuit is ground, one
sparky, the coil, the other sparky, and ground again; both sparkies of a pair
fire together. In one the current flows from ground to the center electrode; in
the other it flows from the center electrode to ground. (This eliminates the
need for a distributor.) So how does the polarity of the primary coil matter?
(And since it's all connected by polarized plugs, how does it get inverted?)
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
Posted by Anthony W on July 28, 2005, 11:19 am
Timberwoof wrote:
> In inline-four motorcycles, there are frequently two coils, one for cylinders
1
> and 4 and one for cylinders 2 and 3. The secondary circuit is ground, one
> sparky, the coil, the other sparky, and ground again; both sparkies of a pair
> fire together. In one the current flows from ground to the center electrode;
in
> the other it flows from the center electrode to ground. (This eliminates the
> need for a distributor.) So how does the polarity of the primary coil matter?
> (And since it's all connected by polarized plugs, how does it get inverted?)
You're right. I was thinking of a single tower coil where the primary
and secondary circuits share a common ground through the points. I
need to stop posting late at night...
Tony
> acquired from a neighbor just so he could get it out of his barn.
>
> We have a 1978 Kawasaki 650. The problem we are having is the coil on the
> right side of the motor melted. We put a new coil on it and it ran for about
> 20 minutes, would not run over 2000 rpms, then the right side coil melted
> again. We made sure that we had spark on all four cylinders but it still
> seemed when it was running that it was missing on at least one cylinder.
> Also just to let you all know this bike has not run in approximately 2
> years.
>
> If anybody has any suggestions we would greatly appreciate it. Please when
> replying to me email put "NEWS" in the subject or my spam control will
> delete it.