Posted by blazing laser on October 14, 2005, 4:17 pm
I hardly even think I need to post, after the exhaustive treatment by
kryamanna.
In practice, flat tires seem to happen much less often on bikes than
on cars. I'm not sure why this is, but it might have to do with the
fact that they tires don't last as long as car tires, they're probably
safer and more puncture-resistant to begin with, and you're more
careful with them (for instance, bikers scan the road surface ahead
and aim for only the cleanest, smoothest parts of the road).
I know a lot of bikers carry a patch kit and a small 12v pump on the
road. This is on a big touring bike with lots of capacity. On a
smaller bike that wouldn't be as practical.
I've only had one flat in all my years of riding. It happened when I
was just a rank newbie. The back tire went flat very quickly at about
55 mph, and it was very scary! We ended up leaving the bike beside
the road and taking the wheel to a shop to get a new tire mounted.
This is one reason it's always good to have a centerstand! 8^)
><newbie rider>
>So, what do you do about flats while on the road? Is that one of those
>things that if it happens, you're pretty much screwed?
></newbie rider>
>:)
Posted by Shades on October 14, 2005, 9:36 pm
I would say that the main reason Motorcycle have far fewer flats is
because with a bike, the width of the contact patch is only 2-3 inches or so
for each tire(it varies due to tire width, profile, etc.) compared to 6 or 8
or more inches per tire on a 4 wheeled vehicle. Having 32 inches of tire for
nails to find is allot different than having 4 inches.
I have seen AMAZING saves from the use of 'Slime'! I recommend using
the 'Slime' intended for tubes because it has longer fibers and seems to
seal quicker and more solid. Its always a good idea to keep a minimum of
tools required on your bike no matter if its a puttin'-round-town bike or a
hellova-long-ride bike, new or old, newbie rider or
more-miles-than-a-OTR-driver rider. I also believe that a plug kit for
tubeless or a patch kit for tube-type is a must. With the right tools, you
can break the bead, pull it over the rim, partially pull out the tube, patch
it, and put it all back together without removing the wheel from the bike.
If it takes 2, 4, 10, 37.5821 Co2 canisters to fill up your tire when your
50 miles from the nearest ANYTHING in no cellular signal country is worth
the hassle of hauling everything around and doing it yourself.
There are gonna be MANY different opinions on the subject and thank God
that we live in a country where we have the right to express our opinion. If
only there was enough respect for others to always express it respectfully.
Also, just because many of us have had the exact same situation happen
doesn't mean that the same remedy that worked great for you will work at all
for someone else...and not belittle the other person because it didn't work.
That's just my opinion...I could be wrong!
"blazing laser" <none> wrote in message
>I hardly even think I need to post, after the exhaustive treatment by
> kryamanna.
> In practice, flat tires seem to happen much less often on bikes than
> on cars. I'm not sure why this is, but it might have to do with the
> fact that they tires don't last as long as car tires, they're probably
> safer and more puncture-resistant to begin with, and you're more
> careful with them (for instance, bikers scan the road surface ahead
> and aim for only the cleanest, smoothest parts of the road).
> I know a lot of bikers carry a patch kit and a small 12v pump on the
> road. This is on a big touring bike with lots of capacity. On a
> smaller bike that wouldn't be as practical.
> I've only had one flat in all my years of riding. It happened when I
> was just a rank newbie. The back tire went flat very quickly at about
> 55 mph, and it was very scary! We ended up leaving the bike beside
> the road and taking the wheel to a shop to get a new tire mounted.
> This is one reason it's always good to have a centerstand! 8^)
>><newbie rider>
>>So, what do you do about flats while on the road? Is that one of those
>>things that if it happens, you're pretty much screwed?
>></newbie rider>
>>:)
>
Posted by R. Pierce Butler on October 15, 2005, 12:30 am
"Shades" <shades_1970(at)netins(dot)net> wrote in
> I would say that the main reason Motorcycle have far fewer flats is
> because with a bike, the width of the contact patch is only 2-3 inches
> or so for each tire(it varies due to tire width, profile, etc.) compared
> to 6 or 8 or more inches per tire on a 4 wheeled vehicle. Having 32
> inches of tire for nails to find is allot different than having 4
> inches.
>
> I have seen AMAZING saves from the use of 'Slime'! I recommend
> using
> the 'Slime' intended for tubes because it has longer fibers and seems to
> seal quicker and more solid. Its always a good idea to keep a minimum of
> tools required on your bike no matter if its a puttin'-round-town bike
> or a hellova-long-ride bike, new or old, newbie rider or
> more-miles-than-a-OTR-driver rider. I also believe that a plug kit for
> tubeless or a patch kit for tube-type is a must. With the right tools,
> you can break the bead, pull it over the rim, partially pull out the
> tube, patch it, and put it all back together without removing the wheel
> from the bike. If it takes 2, 4, 10, 37.5821 Co2 canisters to fill up
> your tire when your 50 miles from the nearest ANYTHING in no cellular
> signal country is worth the hassle of hauling everything around and
> doing it yourself.
>
There is only one problem with Slime. It eats aluminum over time.
Some people were putting slime in as a preventative measure back in the
80's. Some time later they were pretty upset when the bead wouldn't seal.
I haven't seen Slime in any of the Motorcycle shops around here.
pierce
Posted by Bike Guy Joe on October 15, 2005, 8:46 am
kriyamanna-
Give me two of whatever you're having at breakfast.
Posted by kriyamanna on October 15, 2005, 10:56 am
Bike Guy Joe wrote:
> kriyamanna-
> Give me two of whatever you're having at breakfast.
Actually, the high-fiber cereal I eat for breakfast reduces serotonin
levels, so it wouldn't help you. If your genetic inheritance doesn't
tend to produce a higher level of intelligence in your family, you'll
just have to struggle along with one-line posts and fantasize about
dragging everybody else down to your level.
>So, what do you do about flats while on the road? Is that one of those
>things that if it happens, you're pretty much screwed?
></newbie rider>
>:)