OT ? guns in national parks;

 Hey everyone, have a drink on me. Heres a link
to a news story. Hope it workes.

Shovelhead Chuck
( SH #1 ) 8^)>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_go_co/us_guns_national_parks;_ylt=Ag.WZ3v87zkkFNmmZbAIo55I2ocA  

 shovelheadchuck wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_go_co/us_guns_national_parks;_ylt=Ag.WZ3v87zkkFNmmZbAIo55I2ocA  

<sigh> the rule already exists, but had an injunction placed on it until a court
case about it is resolved.

Congress jumping in the middle of it now just muddies the waters. But I can
understand that there isn't anything else important congress needs to be working
on right now, and this kinda thing is good press.

Most people don't know that the rule, the injunction, and this new thing ONLY
pertains to carrying concealed weapons with a permit in National Parks IF and
only IF the law in the state the park is in allows concealed carry permits.

None of it has anything to do with, or changes any of the Park rules/regulations
about carrying and using firearms in the parks (which are in my opinion, more
restrictive than they should be).

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Steve Irving BS#237 - The Delusional Slug
http://www.users.qwest.net/~niteh
12 mbps Mouth Breather

 


Keep in mind there is an important difference between a "rule" and a "law."
Congress makes the laws then the bureaucrats (National Park Service in this
case) makes the rules.  A judge has tremendous latitude to interpret rules,
but less so regarding the laws made by Congress.  In other words, if
Congress says it's OK to carry concealed within a National park (state law
permitting) it will be much more difficult for a judge to say otherwise.

Al

 Lame Duck wrote:

Unless/until someone challenges the law in court, at which point a judge can put
an injunction in place (which is what had already happened).....

I find it interesting that one of the parties in the court case challenging the
Bush era rule allowing concealed weapons in National Parks (under certain
conditions) is the union for the employees of the national parks.

I find this entire thing to be BS to begin with, I live in an open carry state
and would still not be allowed (under the Bush era rule and the proposed law) to
carry my weapon into a National Park unless I am permitted to carry a concealed
weapon. I carry openly as allowed by law in my state, when I carry at all (and I
do at times, under certain conditions)).....never felt the need to hide a gun on
my person.

WARNING MOTORCYCLE CONTENT

Usually I only carry a firearm when I'm riding the bike out in BFE Arizona
(which there is a lot of) and I know I'll be by myself. I've found that even
with my charming personality and winning smile.....not everyone, everywhere is
always glad to see me........<sfsf>

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Steve Irving BS#237 - The Delusional Slug
http://www.users.qwest.net/~niteh
12 mbps Mouth Breather

  I carry openly as allowed by law in my state, when I carry at all (and I

I've never carried open even though we can here. I have a CCW permit for
2 states that covers most everywhere and I prefer any bad guys not know
I have a handgun .. as that will just make me their first target. Also ..
one of the states I have a permit for you have to have it concealed or
you can be cited for "brandishing".

For me a big plus in this is that I don't have to stop and unload and lock
up the handgun before going thru a NP. I can just leave it where it is. I do
always carry and will welcome the chance to be able to defend myself
should that be needed

It was nice to see common sense prevail on this.

t