Posted by Greg O on March 21, 2010, 2:34 pm
>> Head south east outa Fargo, avoid Chi-town, then head generally east
>> untill I get there!
> If you get to an ocean you went too far.
> 112
Thanks for the heads up!
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Greg O
PoorUB
BS#287
2010 Ultra - Wow!
2005 Ultra, long gone and forgotten
Posted by Road Glidin' Don on March 19, 2010, 2:46 am
On Mar 18, 6:42 pm, Andy aka Big Stinkie <"andy at bigstinkie dot
com"> wrote:
> Drinks are on me for the evening.
> 2005 Electra Glide Standard 45k miles
> Drained the fluid from the primary and found a bunch of metal chunks
> stuck to the magnet. Nothing real big, and not a whole lot of them, but
> it was not the very fine, almost powdery stuff that is often found on a
> magnetic plug. Showed the chunks to the HD service guy (good, trusted
> mechanic) and he said it wasn't anything to be immediately concerned
> with, but figured it probably was the chain. He said to keep an eye on
> it by periodically pulling the plug, sticking my finger over the drain
> hole to minimize fluid loss, looking at the plug, and then sticking it
> back in. Sounded good to me, but I'm a worry-wart. I had to check further.
> I took the cover off and removed the chain/clutch/compensating sprocket
> after getting mechanical advice from an un-named source. (Thanks Wally!)
> Inspected the parts and about 10-12 links were worn on the inside of the
> chain...all on the same side.
> I looked at all the other parts, but I'm no expert and can't really tell
> what is normal and what isn't. So, I posted a few pictures next door.
> Four posts, actually. Each one has a different part in it. Figured I'd
> toss it out to you folks and see if anyone has
> suggestions/recommendations, etc.
> Since it's apart already I'll probably go ahead and replace the chain,
> but I'd like to know if any of the wear is unusual, and what caused it.
> It could be that the wear is the result of some other part that has gone
> bad. I just don't know.
> Thanks for your help.
Have you ruled out that the chain is running with too much slack,
Andy? I've heard of them brushing against the inside of the primary
when slapping around (could imagine that creating fine metal filings,
as you describe).
Posted by Andy aka Big Stinkie on March 19, 2010, 8:49 am
On 3/19/2010 1:46 AM, Road Glidin' Don wrote:
> On Mar 18, 6:42 pm, Andy aka Big Stinkie<"andy at bigstinkie dot
> com"> wrote:
>> Drinks are on me for the evening.
>>
>> 2005 Electra Glide Standard 45k miles
>>
>> Drained the fluid from the primary and found a bunch of metal chunks
>> stuck to the magnet. Nothing real big, and not a whole lot of them, but
>> it was not the very fine, almost powdery stuff that is often found on a
>> magnetic plug. Showed the chunks to the HD service guy (good, trusted
>> mechanic) and he said it wasn't anything to be immediately concerned
>> with, but figured it probably was the chain. He said to keep an eye on
>> it by periodically pulling the plug, sticking my finger over the drain
>> hole to minimize fluid loss, looking at the plug, and then sticking it
>> back in. Sounded good to me, but I'm a worry-wart. I had to check further.
>>
>> I took the cover off and removed the chain/clutch/compensating sprocket
>> after getting mechanical advice from an un-named source. (Thanks Wally!)
>> Inspected the parts and about 10-12 links were worn on the inside of the
>> chain...all on the same side.
>>
>> I looked at all the other parts, but I'm no expert and can't really tell
>> what is normal and what isn't. So, I posted a few pictures next door.
>> Four posts, actually. Each one has a different part in it. Figured I'd
>> toss it out to you folks and see if anyone has
>> suggestions/recommendations, etc.
>>
>> Since it's apart already I'll probably go ahead and replace the chain,
>> but I'd like to know if any of the wear is unusual, and what caused it.
>> It could be that the wear is the result of some other part that has gone
>> bad. I just don't know.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
> Have you ruled out that the chain is running with too much slack,
> Andy? I've heard of them brushing against the inside of the primary
> when slapping around (could imagine that creating fine metal filings,
> as you describe).
Prolly should have mentioned that I have the automatic adjuster
installed. Of course, that doesn't mean that the adjuster is working
right. (just my luck...) When I stick it back together I'll make note of
the tension. I *did* see that the edges of the little pivoting pins (I
don't know what they are really called so that's my name for them) that
stick out on the outside edges of the chain appeared to be worn, but I
checked for marks on the inside of the case and found none. I'll double
check, though. Maybe I'll head to the dealer and compare mine to a new
one and see what the difference is. Thanks for the info.
Andy
Posted by Andy aka Big Stinkie on March 29, 2010, 8:59 am
On 3/18/2010 7:42 PM, Andy aka Big Stinkie wrote:
> Drinks are on me for the evening.
> 2005 Electra Glide Standard 45k miles
> Drained the fluid from the primary and found a bunch of metal chunks
> stuck to the magnet. Nothing real big, and not a whole lot of them, but
> it was not the very fine, almost powdery stuff that is often found on a
> magnetic plug. Showed the chunks to the HD service guy (good, trusted
> mechanic) and he said it wasn't anything to be immediately concerned
> with, but figured it probably was the chain. He said to keep an eye on
> it by periodically pulling the plug, sticking my finger over the drain
> hole to minimize fluid loss, looking at the plug, and then sticking it
> back in. Sounded good to me, but I'm a worry-wart. I had to check further.
> I took the cover off and removed the chain/clutch/compensating sprocket
> after getting mechanical advice from an un-named source. (Thanks Wally!)
> Inspected the parts and about 10-12 links were worn on the inside of the
> chain...all on the same side.
> I looked at all the other parts, but I'm no expert and can't really tell
> what is normal and what isn't. So, I posted a few pictures next door.
> Four posts, actually. Each one has a different part in it. Figured I'd
> toss it out to you folks and see if anyone has
> suggestions/recommendations, etc.
> Since it's apart already I'll probably go ahead and replace the chain,
> but I'd like to know if any of the wear is unusual, and what caused it.
> It could be that the wear is the result of some other part that has gone
> bad. I just don't know.
After receiving lots of good advice from various folks (thank you) I
determined that the wear on the chain wasn't anything bad. No other
parts exhibited any obvious wear, so I put it back together with all
original parts, then took it for a short ride...about 150 miles.
Two things amazed me. One, it worked! Nothing fell off and it got me
home. (I'm not terribly confident about my mechanical abilities.) Two,
the thing is quieter than it used to be. Whenever I ride the bike after
working on it my ears are attuned to pick up any and all new and strange
sounds - each of which assures me that the bike is about to experience
an instant catastrophic disassembly. This time there were *fewer*
noises. Unfortunately for me and my various neuroses, the *lack* of
noise made me think it was going to experience an instant catastrophic
disassembly. But it didn't.
I mentioned that so I could mention this. A few years ago I had the
dealer install the auto adjuster while they were doing some warranty
work in the primary case. Afterward it seemed to be a lot noisier...you
know...some new whines and whirs. The auto adjuster is a clever little
contraption whose workings are ingeniously simplistic, but Murphy's Law
dictates that anything that has two or more parts also has the ability
to malfunction. During my research I came across several instances where
it was said that the auto adjuster had to be set just right during
installation to work properly. As I put it all back together I re-set
the auto adjuster and double, triple and fourple (fourple?) checked it.
I'm wondering if perhaps the auto adjuster had been bound up or not
working as it should, causing the aforementioned wear on the chain and
the noise that isn't there anymore. I also noticed that the wear on the
auto adjuster shoe - though very slight - was more pronounced on one
side than on the other. Hmmmmmmm. I would assume that the wear should be
evenly distributed across the face of the shoe. If it was pushing up on
the chain at an angle, that could account for the wear on the one side
of the chain, the uneven wear on the shoe, and possibly the whirs and
whines. Makes sense to me. <shrug>
Sorry that I don't have any definitive answers as to why the chain had
the wear or why it's quieter now. I have only suppositions, but maybe
this information will help out someone later on.
Andy aka Big Stinkie BS#252 SLOB#3
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>> untill I get there!
> If you get to an ocean you went too far.
> 112