Re: Intro (well, sort of)

 On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:39:48 -0400, Philip Nasadowski


Yeah, I remember ya and I'll take a pair of ice cold Coors, thanky.

<schnipp down to all I care about>


So, ya know a thang er two about elevators, eh?  I'm lookin' at buyin'
and installin' a used American hydraulic, two story, 23 person, 3,500
lb cap.  It came out of a Seattle Boeing building and th' seller
thinks it's a late 80's unit.  Sezzed it's all there too.  Three phase
220 v electric over hydraulic with a cylinder kinda like an old
service station car lift.

I'm guessin' there ain't a chance in hell of gettin' an elevator
company to install this thing since it's used.  And I can't find any
info on "American", did Otis buy 'em out?  Any clues about this thing
and installin' it?  

Snarl

 Philip Nasadowski wrote...


I 'member ya.  Welcome back and thanks for the drink.

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 Philip Nasadowski sed:

What exit?

 

I think it's 53 off of 80, then up 23 to 202.

WTF is with the 'no left turn' shit in this state, anyway?  And the
'safety corridor' stuff?  Am I supposed to NOT drive safe outside of
them?

I swear, you get over the bridge and it's a whole new world.

Not as much fun as Puerto Rico, though.  I've got a long, though amusing
story about how I ended up there for a week, at someone else's cost :)  
At Palmas Del Mar, no less....

  snarl@trippin.com wrote:


Yeah.  Mostly controls, though I've been in machine rooms.  We worked
the controls side - building controllers and rebuilding them, not
installations, though we dealt with firms that did that (they were our
customers).


With the controls and all?  I suspect you're going to have to have it
updated to the newer safety regs.  I don't know how people typically
deal with used elevators.


Yeah, that's what it is, basically.  The motor's across the line, soft
start, or wye-delta.  Pumps to lift the car, the car returns on gravity.  
There's a valve assembly in there, which is either Maxton or Dover,
likely.  If you need a new controller, you need to know the valve
assembly - they're all different.


I'd check around.  it depends on what the local laws are, and what the
service is - if it's passenger, they may care more than if it's freight.  
or at least they used to.


Might have been a large installation firm.  NYC has a metric assload of
Staley stuff, mostly 6/7 floor car door apartment specials.  Otis
generally doesn't chase the low end anymore, since it's the high profile
stuff they like.  a lot of small firms will use off the shelf stuff
and package it under their brand name (Cemco, Staley, etc).  The jack,
valves, pump, controls, door devices are all likely name brand.  I bet
you've got GAL operators on the doors...


Have a pro do it - elevator shaft work is surprisingly dangerous*, and
you gotta navigate the building codes, which means you'll need some
legal dudes too, likely.  The last thing you want to do is squish
yourself, or anyone else, and then be stuck in court for a few years,
and elevators are pretty good at squishing folks.

Also, remember you'll need a floor below and likely above in the shaft,
since the jack sits in a pit, and you need to clear a guy on the roof of
the car.  And a bit 'o space for the pump/tank/controls.

Don't forget - you're gonna need some upkeep, and an annual inspection
on it, too.

* We had a two story hydro at our hop, and NOBODY but the boss ever rode
the roof of it, period.