Posted by Stingy Bastard on December 2, 2007, 11:21 am
I _finally_ got around to pulling the starter off my Shovel.
Hey Chuck Eaves, thanks for the kind offer of helping ID the thing, but once
in my hands I was able to ID it with a little hunting around.
It's a Prestolite. It's a pretty cheesy design, I think. The armature is
only held by a press fit of the bearing to the shaft and then mechanically
staking the bearing into the aluminum housing. There's no thrust bearing or
anything. The staking let go on mine and the armature moved back and bumped
into the brush holder. Piece of crap design, only lasted thirtyodd years.
I'm cleaning it up and rebulding it (something less than $30 to invest, new
brushes and freshen the bushing in the rear of the housing, prolly gonna
leave the dodgy roller bearing in there - my name is what?) but I'm thinking
I might see if a Hitachi starter turns up for me someday and I will swap
that in.
Anybody been inside both a Prestolite and a Hitachi and can compare the guts
well for me? Is the later starter a more robust design? I'm thinking that
there is a reason the moco moved to the other starter. The reason might be
reliability and the Hitachi is better, but it might be to save money and the
Hitachi might be even cheesier, I dunno.
Drinks all around for anyone that made it this far into the post! Extra
pretzels for Chuck!
Don
'75 FLH laying useless
'71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
yet another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
one '71 Triumph Bonney too far gone to do anything with
one circa 1965 attached garage desperately in need of real electrical
lighting
Posted by Stingy Bastard on December 2, 2007, 11:35 am
>I _finally_ got around to pulling the starter off my Shovel.
> Hey Chuck Eaves, thanks for the kind offer of helping ID the thing, but
> once in my hands I was able to ID it with a little hunting around.
> It's a Prestolite. It's a pretty cheesy design, I think. The armature is
> only held by a press fit of the bearing to the shaft and then mechanically
> staking the bearing into the aluminum housing. There's no thrust bearing
> or anything. The staking let go on mine and the armature moved back and
> bumped into the brush holder. Piece of crap design, only lasted thirtyodd
> years.
> I'm cleaning it up and rebulding it (something less than $30 to invest,
> new brushes and freshen the bushing in the rear of the housing, prolly
> gonna leave the dodgy roller bearing in there - my name is what?) but I'm
> thinking I might see if a Hitachi starter turns up for me someday and I
> will swap that in.
> Anybody been inside both a Prestolite and a Hitachi and can compare the
> guts well for me? Is the later starter a more robust design? I'm
> thinking that there is a reason the moco moved to the other starter. The
> reason might be reliability and the Hitachi is better, but it might be to
> save money and the Hitachi might be even cheesier, I dunno.
> Drinks all around for anyone that made it this far into the post! Extra
> pretzels for Chuck!
> Don
> '75 FLH laying useless
> '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> yet another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> one '71 Triumph Bonney too far gone to do anything with
> one circa 1965 attached garage desperately in need of real electrical
> lighting
Okay, time to change that stupid spoof addy to something useful. Gonna try
out a signature, too. Happy quiet snow-dusted Sunday to you.
Posted by Stingy Bastard on December 2, 2007, 11:39 am
>>I _finally_ got around to pulling the starter off my Shovel.
>>
>> Hey Chuck Eaves, thanks for the kind offer of helping ID the thing, but
>> once in my hands I was able to ID it with a little hunting around.
>>
>> It's a Prestolite. It's a pretty cheesy design, I think. The armature
>> is only held by a press fit of the bearing to the shaft and then
>> mechanically staking the bearing into the aluminum housing. There's no
>> thrust bearing or anything. The staking let go on mine and the armature
>> moved back and bumped into the brush holder. Piece of crap design, only
>> lasted thirtyodd years.
>>
>> I'm cleaning it up and rebulding it (something less than $30 to invest,
>> new brushes and freshen the bushing in the rear of the housing, prolly
>> gonna leave the dodgy roller bearing in there - my name is what?) but I'm
>> thinking I might see if a Hitachi starter turns up for me someday and I
>> will swap that in.
>>
>> Anybody been inside both a Prestolite and a Hitachi and can compare the
>> guts well for me? Is the later starter a more robust design? I'm
>> thinking that there is a reason the moco moved to the other starter. The
>> reason might be reliability and the Hitachi is better, but it might be to
>> save money and the Hitachi might be even cheesier, I dunno.
>>
>> Drinks all around for anyone that made it this far into the post! Extra
>> pretzels for Chuck!
>>
>> Don
>>
>> '75 FLH laying useless
>> '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>> another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>> yet another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>> one '71 Triumph Bonney too far gone to do anything with
>> one circa 1965 attached garage desperately in need of real electrical
>> lighting
>>
>>
> Okay, time to change that stupid spoof addy to something useful. Gonna
> try out a signature, too. Happy quiet snow-dusted Sunday to you.
Signature didn't go, let's randomly throw some switches in the software and
try again...
Posted by Stingy Bastard on December 2, 2007, 11:42 am
>>
>>>I _finally_ got around to pulling the starter off my Shovel.
>>>
>>> Hey Chuck Eaves, thanks for the kind offer of helping ID the thing, but
>>> once in my hands I was able to ID it with a little hunting around.
>>>
>>> It's a Prestolite. It's a pretty cheesy design, I think. The armature
>>> is only held by a press fit of the bearing to the shaft and then
>>> mechanically staking the bearing into the aluminum housing. There's no
>>> thrust bearing or anything. The staking let go on mine and the armature
>>> moved back and bumped into the brush holder. Piece of crap design, only
>>> lasted thirtyodd years.
>>>
>>> I'm cleaning it up and rebulding it (something less than $30 to invest,
>>> new brushes and freshen the bushing in the rear of the housing, prolly
>>> gonna leave the dodgy roller bearing in there - my name is what?) but
>>> I'm thinking I might see if a Hitachi starter turns up for me someday
>>> and I will swap that in.
>>>
>>> Anybody been inside both a Prestolite and a Hitachi and can compare the
>>> guts well for me? Is the later starter a more robust design? I'm
>>> thinking that there is a reason the moco moved to the other starter.
>>> The reason might be reliability and the Hitachi is better, but it might
>>> be to save money and the Hitachi might be even cheesier, I dunno.
>>>
>>> Drinks all around for anyone that made it this far into the post! Extra
>>> pretzels for Chuck!
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> '75 FLH laying useless
>>> '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>>> another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>>> yet another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
>>> one '71 Triumph Bonney too far gone to do anything with
>>> one circa 1965 attached garage desperately in need of real electrical
>>> lighting
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Okay, time to change that stupid spoof addy to something useful. Gonna
>> try out a signature, too. Happy quiet snow-dusted Sunday to you.
>>
>>
> Signature didn't go, let's randomly throw some switches in the software
> and try again...
Close enough, the words showed up. The software top posts. Hmmph.
I apologize for the repeated posts. Have a drink on my dime and remain
calm, please...
--
Don
No bikes at the moment, just lots and lotsa parts
No bozo to reply
Posted by Carl on December 2, 2007, 11:59 am
snip
> Close enough, the words showed up. The software top posts. Hmmph.
> I apologize for the repeated posts. Have a drink on my dime and remain
> calm, please...
> --
> Don
> No bikes at the moment, just lots and lotsa parts
> No bozo to reply
Thanks for the drink, anymore calm is the only way I like to be. I'm finding
the older I get and the more things the doctor's keep finding wrong with me
the more I want to smooth things out,,,,,,like my nerves! I want my sanity
so I can enjoy as much as my grandkids as I can while I can still walk! I'll
know more next September on that subject.
Let me buy you one now.........
--
Carl
I started out with nothing, and
I just about have that paid for.
Remove one 9 to reply
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> Hey Chuck Eaves, thanks for the kind offer of helping ID the thing, but
> once in my hands I was able to ID it with a little hunting around.
> It's a Prestolite. It's a pretty cheesy design, I think. The armature is
> only held by a press fit of the bearing to the shaft and then mechanically
> staking the bearing into the aluminum housing. There's no thrust bearing
> or anything. The staking let go on mine and the armature moved back and
> bumped into the brush holder. Piece of crap design, only lasted thirtyodd
> years.
> I'm cleaning it up and rebulding it (something less than $30 to invest,
> new brushes and freshen the bushing in the rear of the housing, prolly
> gonna leave the dodgy roller bearing in there - my name is what?) but I'm
> thinking I might see if a Hitachi starter turns up for me someday and I
> will swap that in.
> Anybody been inside both a Prestolite and a Hitachi and can compare the
> guts well for me? Is the later starter a more robust design? I'm
> thinking that there is a reason the moco moved to the other starter. The
> reason might be reliability and the Hitachi is better, but it might be to
> save money and the Hitachi might be even cheesier, I dunno.
> Drinks all around for anyone that made it this far into the post! Extra
> pretzels for Chuck!
> Don
> '75 FLH laying useless
> '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> yet another '71 Triumph TR6C laying useless
> one '71 Triumph Bonney too far gone to do anything with
> one circa 1965 attached garage desperately in need of real electrical
> lighting