Posted by upchuck on January 13, 2007, 4:53 pm
If you're thirsty, have a drink on me and let me ask for some advice.
I've discussed this with some other folks on other forums, but wanted to get
a second opinion or three.
If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been riding my FXR
around in the cold weather here in Massachusetts. The crankcase breather
hoses on my evo keep filling up with a white cream-like substance until the
front hose clogs, and the breather banjo connection starts pushing oil onto
the outside of the hose. It then drips down onto the tappet guides, some of
it getting caught in the air and making its way onto the rear exhaust pipe.
I was told that this was due to moisture mixing with the oil and forming a
sludge. I don't see any of this in the banjo outlet itself, only in the
hoses. When I clear the hoses out using a piece of coathanger and a knotted
string, there is definitely water getting flushed out with the sludge.
How do I cure this? One suggestion was to use "Sea Foam" (4 oz in the oil
for a half hour ride, change the oil and filter, then 2 oz in the oil tank
to keep the moisture at bay), but being this is the internet, I'm not taking
the advice of just one voice when it comes to putting something in my
engine.
Thanks,
--
Steve Paul
'93 FXRS-C
email x gets g
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Posted by Coasty on January 13, 2007, 5:11 pm
> If you're thirsty, have a drink on me and let me ask for some advice.
> I've discussed this with some other folks on other forums, but wanted to
> get a second opinion or three.
> If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been riding my FXR
> around in the cold weather here in Massachusetts. The crankcase breather
> hoses on my evo keep filling up with a white cream-like substance until
> the front hose clogs, and the breather banjo connection starts pushing oil
> onto the outside of the hose. It then drips down onto the tappet guides,
> some of it getting caught in the air and making its way onto the rear
> exhaust pipe.
> I was told that this was due to moisture mixing with the oil and forming a
> sludge. I don't see any of this in the banjo outlet itself, only in the
> hoses. When I clear the hoses out using a piece of coathanger and a
> knotted string, there is definitely water getting flushed out with the
> sludge.
> How do I cure this? One suggestion was to use "Sea Foam" (4 oz in the oil
> for a half hour ride, change the oil and filter, then 2 oz in the oil tank
> to keep the moisture at bay), but being this is the internet, I'm not
> taking the advice of just one voice when it comes to putting something in
> my engine.
> Thanks,
> --
> Steve Paul
> '93 FXRS-C
> email x gets g
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
What weight oil? What are the outside air temps? Are you running an oil
cooler? What is the oil bag temperature? Basically you are not getting your
oil up to temperature.
Coasty
Posted by upchuck on January 13, 2007, 5:28 pm
"Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been riding my FXR
>> around in the cold weather here in Massachusetts. The crankcase breather
>> hoses on my evo keep filling up with a white cream-like substance ...
> What weight oil? What are the outside air temps? Are you running an oil
> cooler? What is the oil bag temperature? Basically you are not getting
> your oil up to temperature.
Harley Genuine 20w50
upper 30's to lower 50's
no oil cooler
Sounds like I should try 10w40..?
Thanks, have another drink on me.
--
Steve Paul
'93 FXRS-C
email x gets g
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Posted by 'Key on January 13, 2007, 11:42 pm
> "Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in
> message
>>
>>> If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been
>>> riding my FXR around in the cold weather here in
>>> Massachusetts. The crankcase breather hoses on my evo
>>> keep filling up with a white cream-like substance ...
>> What weight oil? What are the outside air temps? Are you
>> running an oil cooler? What is the oil bag temperature?
>> Basically you are not getting your oil up to temperature.
> Harley Genuine 20w50
> upper 30's to lower 50's
> no oil cooler
> Sounds like I should try 10w40..?
> Thanks, have another drink on me.
> --
> Steve Paul
> '93 FXRS-C
> email x gets g
NO on the "10w40"...
just stop those short runs..
always at least warm up to normal temp.
--
"Key"
========
Posted by Mike F. on January 13, 2007, 5:30 pm
> If you're thirsty, have a drink on me and let me ask for some advice.
> I've discussed this with some other folks on other forums, but wanted to
> get a second opinion or three.
> If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been riding my FXR
> around in the cold weather here in Massachusetts. The crankcase breather
> hoses on my evo keep filling up with a white cream-like substance until
> the front hose clogs, and the breather banjo connection starts pushing oil
> onto the outside of the hose. It then drips down onto the tappet guides,
> some of it getting caught in the air and making its way onto the rear
> exhaust pipe.
> I was told that this was due to moisture mixing with the oil and forming a
> sludge. I don't see any of this in the banjo outlet itself, only in the
> hoses. When I clear the hoses out using a piece of coathanger and a
> knotted string, there is definitely water getting flushed out with the
> sludge.
> How do I cure this? One suggestion was to use "Sea Foam" (4 oz in the oil
> for a half hour ride, change the oil and filter, then 2 oz in the oil tank
> to keep the moisture at bay), but being this is the internet, I'm not
> taking the advice of just one voice when it comes to putting something in
> my engine.
Steve,
Take a longer ride, what you've heard is correct, its water vapor
condensing in your breather tube.
Ride about an hour or so and the engine temps will evaporate the water.
Short rides or just starting the engine in the winter will shirley cause
this to happen.
Oh Shirley, send us another drink over here.
--
Mike F.
caspr2 Sens Newt2
2002 FLHTCUI (for sale)
2007 FLTR (gray ghost)
> I've discussed this with some other folks on other forums, but wanted to
> get a second opinion or three.
> If you've been paying attention, you know that I've been riding my FXR
> around in the cold weather here in Massachusetts. The crankcase breather
> hoses on my evo keep filling up with a white cream-like substance until
> the front hose clogs, and the breather banjo connection starts pushing oil
> onto the outside of the hose. It then drips down onto the tappet guides,
> some of it getting caught in the air and making its way onto the rear
> exhaust pipe.
> I was told that this was due to moisture mixing with the oil and forming a
> sludge. I don't see any of this in the banjo outlet itself, only in the
> hoses. When I clear the hoses out using a piece of coathanger and a
> knotted string, there is definitely water getting flushed out with the
> sludge.
> How do I cure this? One suggestion was to use "Sea Foam" (4 oz in the oil
> for a half hour ride, change the oil and filter, then 2 oz in the oil tank
> to keep the moisture at bay), but being this is the internet, I'm not
> taking the advice of just one voice when it comes to putting something in
> my engine.
> Thanks,
> --
> Steve Paul
> '93 FXRS-C
> email x gets g
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com