Posted by saddlebag on August 1, 2010, 8:37 pm
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT), "tomor...@erols.com"
> >On Aug 1, 1:05 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >Gentleman) wrote:
> >> > What would you call such a ride today? Would that be a "cruise" or a
> >> > "tour" in today's parlance?
> >> A tour. And then some. IMHO. Troiuble is, you'll find that people don't
> >> believe a touring bike is a touring bike unless.....
> >Actually, it has been made quite clear in this discussion that people
> >understand perfectly well that there are motorcycles built
> >specificially for touring, just as there are motorcycles specifically
> >built for every narrow niche that motorcycling has been divided up
> >into over the past 30 years, but that one can tour on a bike that is
> >not specifically designed for touring, just as one can race on a bike
> >that isn't specifically made for racing, cruise on a bike that isn't
> >specifically made for cruising, profile on a bike that isn't made
> >specifically for profiling, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
> >Funny that someone just back to motorcycling after taking a good chunk
> >of a human lifetime off thinks that the best thing to do in a
> >motorcycling forum is to start criticizing nd questioning the people
> >who never stopped riding, touring, racing, commuting, restoring,
> >repairing, customizing, riding, buying, selling, and loving
> >motorcycles all these years.
> >Guess it's just another one of those reeky things that make you go
> >"h'mmmmmm...."
> Hmmmmm! :)
> Don't mean to get your ire up bud. I just thought by now there'd be
> better ideas out there than there really is. Didn't realize the biking
> industry went the way of the legal industry. All semantics.
> Anyway, everything's changed since the day I originally posted. After
> Don drew our attention to the Harley lineup for 2011, my dream-bike,
> something I always figured started at $20K +, is now the object of my
> desire.
> And I honestly don't give a shit about anybody's opinion on the Iron
> 883 at a very affordable $10k right off the show-room floor. (Be still
> my heart). I'll learn to make it do what I want at that price. :)
> By the way, don't be such a "can't do" kind of guy. Two years ago, I
> met a young couple who rode a little, old, 450cc Honda all the way
> from Edmonton Alberta to Saint John, New Brunswick. They took their
> time and did it in five days. Of course, I didn't think to ask them if
> they 'toured' or 'cruised' their way across the country. But they
> ain't selling the bike that brought them here. :) That's the "can do"
> attitude. You probably would have told them, "impossible".
Didn't he just mention that he's done such things? You are missing
the point. When one is young and broke, one does things because one
has to. When one is a little older maybe he might use the wrong tool
for the job to prove his mettle. At some point, one might have the
realization that time to play is finite and may become willing to
spend the money necessary to make the most of that time.
There was an article about a guy in one of the mags recently that I
found really interesting. This guy did a world tour on an old Harley
cruiser with a Knucklehead engine designed circa 1940. It took him
forever and he was constantly stopping to fix something or carrying it
on a train because it couldn't handle the terrain. Made for a
fantastic read, but not something I would ever spend my time doing.
Stories of people testing their mettle are usually good fun.
Posted by Bob Mann on August 1, 2010, 9:57 pm
> Didn't he just mention that he's done such things? You are missing
> the point. When one is young and broke, one does things because one
> has to. When one is a little older maybe he might use the wrong tool
> for the job to prove his mettle. At some point, one might have the
> realization that time to play is finite and may become willing to
> spend the money necessary to make the most of that time.
> There was an article about a guy in one of the mags recently that I
> found really interesting. This guy did a world tour on an old Harley
> cruiser with a Knucklehead engine designed circa 1940. It took him
> forever and he was constantly stopping to fix something or carrying it
> on a train because it couldn't handle the terrain. Made for a
> fantastic read, but not something I would ever spend my time doing.
> Stories of people testing their mettle are usually good fun.
Quite right.
I'll stick to my oversized touring bike unless I get a different one.
I ride far enough in a year that I find being comfortable far
outweighs being cool.
Bob
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on August 1, 2010, 10:55 pm
> I'll stick to my oversized touring bike unless I get a different one.
> I ride far enough in a year that I find being comfortable far
> outweighs being cool.
Bob, just bolt some spurs on yer boots and you can be BOTH!
Posted by dusty on August 2, 2010, 1:44 am
wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT), "tomor...@erols.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Aug 1, 1:05 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>> >Gentleman) wrote:
>> >> > What would you call such a ride today? Would that be a "cruise" or a
>> >> > "tour" in today's parlance?
>>
>> >> A tour. And then some. IMHO. Troiuble is, you'll find that people don't
>> >> believe a touring bike is a touring bike unless.....
>>
>> >Actually, it has been made quite clear in this discussion that people
>> >understand perfectly well that there are motorcycles built
>> >specificially for touring, just as there are motorcycles specifically
>> >built for every narrow niche that motorcycling has been divided up
>> >into over the past 30 years, but that one can tour on a bike that is
>> >not specifically designed for touring, just as one can race on a bike
>> >that isn't specifically made for racing, cruise on a bike that isn't
>> >specifically made for cruising, profile on a bike that isn't made
>> >specifically for profiling, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
>>
>> >Funny that someone just back to motorcycling after taking a good chunk
>> >of a human lifetime off thinks that the best thing to do in a
>> >motorcycling forum is to start criticizing nd questioning the people
>> >who never stopped riding, touring, racing, commuting, restoring,
>> >repairing, customizing, riding, buying, selling, and loving
>> >motorcycles all these years.
>>
>> >Guess it's just another one of those reeky things that make you go
>> >"h'mmmmmm...."
>>
>> Hmmmmm! :)
>>
>> Don't mean to get your ire up bud. I just thought by now there'd be
>> better ideas out there than there really is. Didn't realize the biking
>> industry went the way of the legal industry. All semantics.
>>
>> Anyway, everything's changed since the day I originally posted. After
>> Don drew our attention to the Harley lineup for 2011, my dream-bike,
>> something I always figured started at $20K +, is now the object of my
>> desire.
>>
>> And I honestly don't give a shit about anybody's opinion on the Iron
>> 883 at a very affordable $10k right off the show-room floor. (Be still
>> my heart). I'll learn to make it do what I want at that price. :)
>>
>> By the way, don't be such a "can't do" kind of guy. Two years ago, I
>> met a young couple who rode a little, old, 450cc Honda all the way
>> from Edmonton Alberta to Saint John, New Brunswick. They took their
>> time and did it in five days. Of course, I didn't think to ask them if
>> they 'toured' or 'cruised' their way across the country. But they
>> ain't selling the bike that brought them here. :) That's the "can do"
>> attitude. You probably would have told them, "impossible".
>Didn't he just mention that he's done such things? You are missing
>the point. When one is young and broke, one does things because one
>has to. When one is a little older maybe he might use the wrong tool
>for the job to prove his mettle. At some point, one might have the
>realization that time to play is finite and may become willing to
>spend the money necessary to make the most of that time.
Words of wisdom.
>There was an article about a guy in one of the mags recently that I
>found really interesting. This guy did a world tour on an old Harley
>cruiser with a Knucklehead engine designed circa 1940. It took him
>forever and he was constantly stopping to fix something or carrying it
>on a train because it couldn't handle the terrain. Made for a
>fantastic read, but not something I would ever spend my time doing.
>Stories of people testing their mettle are usually good fun.
Yeah! I did miss the point entirely. I thought I was talking to that
guy who was going on about cruising and touring.
I apologized as best I could to the guy who got the post instead.
Apologies for my screwup.
Didn't someone (S'mee) just post a site in the thread "Hardcore
Harley Rider" or something to that effect , was some old feller, like
myself, heading for California on a 1914 or so Harley? Kind of like a
pictorial saga. That was an interesting little story too.
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> >On Aug 1, 1:05 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >Gentleman) wrote:
> >> > What would you call such a ride today? Would that be a "cruise" or a
> >> > "tour" in today's parlance?
> >> A tour. And then some. IMHO. Troiuble is, you'll find that people don't
> >> believe a touring bike is a touring bike unless.....
> >Actually, it has been made quite clear in this discussion that people
> >understand perfectly well that there are motorcycles built
> >specificially for touring, just as there are motorcycles specifically
> >built for every narrow niche that motorcycling has been divided up
> >into over the past 30 years, but that one can tour on a bike that is
> >not specifically designed for touring, just as one can race on a bike
> >that isn't specifically made for racing, cruise on a bike that isn't
> >specifically made for cruising, profile on a bike that isn't made
> >specifically for profiling, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
> >Funny that someone just back to motorcycling after taking a good chunk
> >of a human lifetime off thinks that the best thing to do in a
> >motorcycling forum is to start criticizing nd questioning the people
> >who never stopped riding, touring, racing, commuting, restoring,
> >repairing, customizing, riding, buying, selling, and loving
> >motorcycles all these years.
> >Guess it's just another one of those reeky things that make you go
> >"h'mmmmmm...."
> Hmmmmm! :)
> Don't mean to get your ire up bud. I just thought by now there'd be
> better ideas out there than there really is. Didn't realize the biking
> industry went the way of the legal industry. All semantics.
> Anyway, everything's changed since the day I originally posted. After
> Don drew our attention to the Harley lineup for 2011, my dream-bike,
> something I always figured started at $20K +, is now the object of my
> desire.
> And I honestly don't give a shit about anybody's opinion on the Iron
> 883 at a very affordable $10k right off the show-room floor. (Be still
> my heart). I'll learn to make it do what I want at that price. :)
> By the way, don't be such a "can't do" kind of guy. Two years ago, I
> met a young couple who rode a little, old, 450cc Honda all the way
> from Edmonton Alberta to Saint John, New Brunswick. They took their
> time and did it in five days. Of course, I didn't think to ask them if
> they 'toured' or 'cruised' their way across the country. But they
> ain't selling the bike that brought them here. :) That's the "can do"
> attitude. You probably would have told them, "impossible".