Posted by Sean_Q_ on March 20, 2010, 5:49 am
<thinking> ... I wonder if I could design and build a 2WD system
for Dnepr#2 that is simpler than the Ural arrangement using
a special differential ... how about 3 rear sprockets.
The inner one (#1) would be driven by chain from the transmission
as usual. The outer rear sprocket (#2) drives a 2nd chain which drives
sprocket #3. It's located a bit forward to line up with the sidecar
wheel, which is driven by a shaft connected to #3.
Sprockets # 2 and 3 need to be of equal diameter, but not necessarily
the same as #1. In fact they'd probably be smaller because
the offset to the sidecar driveshaft is short.
Because there's no accommodation for differing rear wheel speeds
in turns this 2WD would be used only in slippery conditions
such as snow or mud. I'd also need to design a convenient
disconnect for the sidecar wheel.
SQ
Posted by The Older Gentleman on March 20, 2010, 5:45 am
> <thinking> ... I wonder if I could design and build a 2WD system
> for Dnepr#2 that is simpler than the Ural arrangement using
> a special differential ... how about 3 rear sprockets.
>
> The inner one (#1) would be driven by chain from the transmission
> as usual. The outer rear sprocket (#2) drives a 2nd chain which drives
> sprocket #3. It's located a bit forward to line up with the sidecar
> wheel, which is driven by a shaft connected to #3.
>
> Sprockets # 2 and 3 need to be of equal diameter, but not necessarily
> the same as #1. In fact they'd probably be smaller because
> the offset to the sidecar driveshaft is short.
>
You're getting *weirder*, you know.
> Because there's no accommodation for differing rear wheel speeds
> in turns this 2WD would be used only in slippery conditions
> such as snow or mud. I'd also need to design a convenient
> disconnect for the sidecar wheel.
Split link in the secondary chain would do that.
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Posted by Dean Hoffman on March 20, 2010, 7:46 am
Sean_Q_ wrote:
> <thinking> ... I wonder if I could design and build a 2WD system
> for Dnepr#2 that is simpler than the Ural arrangement using
> a special differential ... how about 3 rear sprockets.
>
> The inner one (#1) would be driven by chain from the transmission
> as usual. The outer rear sprocket (#2) drives a 2nd chain which drives
> sprocket #3. It's located a bit forward to line up with the sidecar
> wheel, which is driven by a shaft connected to #3.
>
> Sprockets # 2 and 3 need to be of equal diameter, but not necessarily
> the same as #1. In fact they'd probably be smaller because
> the offset to the sidecar driveshaft is short.
>
> Because there's no accommodation for differing rear wheel speeds
> in turns this 2WD would be used only in slippery conditions
> such as snow or mud. I'd also need to design a convenient
> disconnect for the sidecar wheel.
>
> SQ
An electric clutch could solve the connect/disconnect problem.
Posted by Aham Brahmasmi on March 20, 2010, 12:38 pm
> An electric clutch could solve the connect/disconnect problem.
But it would consume too much power.
A small motorcycle clutch on a shaft driving the sidecar wheel would
work just fine, because it probably wouldn't have to handle more than
20 horsepower...
It could be manually disengaged by pulling the lever into a detent
position.
Posted by Dean Hoffman on March 20, 2010, 12:51 pm
Aham Brahmasmi wrote:
>
>> An electric clutch could solve the connect/disconnect problem.
>
> But it would consume too much power.
>
> A small motorcycle clutch on a shaft driving the sidecar wheel would
> work just fine, because it probably wouldn't have to handle more than
> 20 horsepower...
>
> It could be manually disengaged by pulling the lever into a detent
> position.
>
I didn't spend much time looking. The few references I found put
the amp draw at about 4 amps.
Centrifugal clutch maybe? Would one automatically engage if the
bike wheel was spinning and the sidecar wheel just sitting there looking
silly?
> for Dnepr#2 that is simpler than the Ural arrangement using
> a special differential ... how about 3 rear sprockets.
>
> The inner one (#1) would be driven by chain from the transmission
> as usual. The outer rear sprocket (#2) drives a 2nd chain which drives
> sprocket #3. It's located a bit forward to line up with the sidecar
> wheel, which is driven by a shaft connected to #3.
>
> Sprockets # 2 and 3 need to be of equal diameter, but not necessarily
> the same as #1. In fact they'd probably be smaller because
> the offset to the sidecar driveshaft is short.
>