ABS while cornering - no, it doesn't help, says Honda

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Posted by TOG@Toil on November 20, 2008, 5:15 am
 
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For the benefit of all those who were certain it did, and ignored the
point that when tyres let go under cornering, they sideslip (and ABS
doesn't control that)...

Article in this week's Motor Cycle News, page 10. Honda is developing
a new ABS system that will work under cornering. It uses gyroscopes.

Quote from the paper: "Current ABS systems stop tyres locking up when
a bike is upright, but cannot tell when braking causes the tyre to
slide sideways, as it would if you panic brake while the bike is leant
over."

Quote from Kazuhiko Tani, Honda's chief ABS engineer, interviewed by
the paper: "The system... will take the added control we can get in a
straight line and add control under braking while the motorcycle is
cornering. The most difficult part of getting a bike to corner and
brake while maintaining control is making sure the lateral forces and
grip are not overwhelmed by the braking forces."

So there you have it. If you want to argue the point futher, take it
up with Tani, but I'll stick with his opinion.

Posted by . on November 20, 2008, 8:55 am
 te:


Oh, they should just consult with S'hee.

S'hee invented the Heuristic Algorithmic Orthogonal Anti-Lock Braking
Technology as a premenstrual girl genius thirty years ago.

And then forget more than Honda engineers will ever know...

Posted by TOG@Toil on November 20, 2008, 9:24 am
 
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Nope, no good, me baffled.

Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on November 20, 2008, 10:33 am
 
Thanks for the update.   Nice to have some facts injected into a reeky
debate.

Posted by TOG@Toil on November 20, 2008, 11:35 am
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I couldn't understand, myself, why so many people were vehement that
it *had* to work, when it was bleedin' obvious that the forces on the
tyres were lateral, and ABS was not going to prevent a sideways slide.
But, yes.

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