Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on September 9, 2008, 1:56 pm
David T. Ashley wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> [David T. Ashley wrote:]
>>> I had good luck with the Shadow 600, but of course I have no frame
>>> of reference (one can really only "learn" once).
>>
>> That's true. Other than your short foray with the Katana, have you
>> ever ridden any other bike? Any 'standards?'
>
> Nope, no other standards. You are correct.
So ... you snipped all my dissertation about using a standard for a
first-timer learning. No comments? You agree with me?
> I didn't mind my feet being under my butt on the Katana. But the
> slightly leaned forward posture ... not for me.
If you had added a simple set of bar-backs, you might still have the
Katana...
> I think I'll go V-Strom next time around, in a few years.
>
> Unless the gal I'm loaning the bike to falls in love with it and
> writes me a check sooner.
Be sure to tell her she should at least test ride a standard motorcycle
before deciding on buying and riding a cruiser.
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Posted by David T. Ashley on September 9, 2008, 9:33 pm
> David T. Ashley wrote:
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>> [David T. Ashley wrote:]
>>>> I had good luck with the Shadow 600, but of course I have no frame
>>>> of reference (one can really only "learn" once).
>>>
>>> That's true. Other than your short foray with the Katana, have you
>>> ever ridden any other bike? Any 'standards?'
>>
>> Nope, no other standards. You are correct.
> So ... you snipped all my dissertation about using a standard for a
> first-timer learning. No comments? You agree with me?
I don't agree or disagree. I just consider your opinion more credible than
mine.
I don't know who is right or wrong. I just know that you are more likely to
be right than I am.
>> I didn't mind my feet being under my butt on the Katana. But the
>> slightly leaned forward posture ... not for me.
> If you had added a simple set of bar-backs, you might still have the
> Katana...
Selling the Katana may have saved my life. I was simply riding too fast too
often.
>> I think I'll go V-Strom next time around, in a few years.
>>
>> Unless the gal I'm loaning the bike to falls in love with it and
>> writes me a check sooner.
> Be sure to tell her she should at least test ride a standard motorcycle
> before deciding on buying and riding a cruiser.
I will do that. My only observation is that motorcycle test rides and loans
are fairly hard to come by. She balked at the idea of my loaning my
motorcycle (she's afraid she'll wreck it). I explained that it is just a
lawnmower with wheels, and the max value is about $2K, anyway.
It isn't clear if she could ever, say, borrow a standard motorcycle for a
week or two to figure out if she likes it.
My loan to her and her hubby may be her only test ride option easily
available ...
Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on September 9, 2008, 9:58 pm
David T. Ashley wrote:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> So ... you snipped all my dissertation about using a standard for a
>> first-timer learning. No comments? You agree with me?
>
> I don't agree or disagree. I just consider your opinion more
> credible than mine.
>
> I don't know who is right or wrong. I just know that you are more
> likely to be right than I am.
Ok... that sounds like you agree that I'm right. <g>
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Posted by David T. Ashley on September 10, 2008, 6:38 pm
> David T. Ashley wrote:
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>> So ... you snipped all my dissertation about using a standard for a
>>> first-timer learning. No comments? You agree with me?
>>
>> I don't agree or disagree. I just consider your opinion more
>> credible than mine.
>>
>> I don't know who is right or wrong. I just know that you are more
>> likely to be right than I am.
> Ok... that sounds like you agree that I'm right. <g>
Nope ... I agree that you are more likely to be right. There is a
difference.
Here is an example from current news: there is all that flap about the
particle smasher in Europe.
You have scientists using credible arguments vs. laypeople saying that
little black holes will be formed and devour the earth (or something like
that).
I don't have the scientific background to evaluate this matter.
But I believe that the scientists are more likely to be right.
Posted by Bob Myers on September 9, 2008, 2:19 pm
> I really find your point of view interesting (and it is certainly more
> experienced than mine).
> Could you be more specific what you mean by "forward controls"? Do you
> mean the gearshift and rear brake?
As opposed to having the gearshift, throttle, brake lever,
and clutch located on a small post directly behind the rider,
as was done in the late but unlamented Spagthorpe Beagle II
of, I believe, 1952. This design was originally hailed as
revolutionary, an opinion with the motorcycle press later
revised when it was revealed that it had come about simply
by having portions of the original blueprints copied off
backwards before they were sent to the factory. Oddly
enough, few of the first customers to receive the bike complained,
as even this was a welcome change from the control location
on the Beagle I, a bike whose standard riding position is
shown on the following page:
http://tinyurl.com/6eufp7
Bob M.
>> [David T. Ashley wrote:]
>>> I had good luck with the Shadow 600, but of course I have no frame
>>> of reference (one can really only "learn" once).
>>
>> That's true. Other than your short foray with the Katana, have you
>> ever ridden any other bike? Any 'standards?'
>
> Nope, no other standards. You are correct.