Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on July 7, 2009, 7:43 pm
I've seen many fail and
> old "airhead" BMWs fall over when the flip-up stand flipped too soon. OTOH
> I have never fallen because I forgot to put a stand up. Got a scare or two
> but never fallen or dropped a bike.
> Has anybody or is it like el chupacabra??
On my airhead, somebody had cleverly repositioned
a spring mount to defeat the auto-retracting side stand.
I thought this was absolutely great until one time when
I found myself bouncing off the damn sidestand headed
straight towards a pretty substantial ditch. On about
the sixth bounce, for reasons I still don't understand,
the sidestand finally retracted and I avoided a trip into
the ditch.
I now have a standard retracting sidestand with weaker
than usual retracting springs and I like this arrangement
way better than the non retracting one.
Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on July 7, 2009, 8:01 pm
Vito wrote:
> .. and old "airhead" BMWs fall over when the flip-up stand flipped too
> soon.
You also had to remember to park them *into* the wind. :-)
A gusty breeze from the left oft picked 'em up <retract!> and let 'em
fall over...
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Posted by J. Clarke on July 7, 2009, 8:59 am
TOG@Toil wrote:
>> Thanks for the help everyone. I'll try the suggestions. This is sure
>> a hard bike to work on. It's like a Chinese puzzle, except it's
>> Japanese. I never know when some little jiggery part is going to go
>> SPROING and leap out and bounce away looking for a hiding place.
>>
>> Well I found out one reason it keeps stopping, the kick stand spring
>> is weak and so it keeps opening the Up position sensor, which kills
>> the ignition. Usually, at the most awkward moment in busy traffic.
>> Doubleplus ungood. Now I gotta find a way to defeat the interlock.
>>
> Oh Gawd. I hate those sidestand switches: I've had them give trouble
> on too many bikes, once they've got a few years and a healthy dollop
> of corrosion on them.
> The last one I disconnected was on my Yamama XT600E dirt bike, last
> year.
> There are only two wires from the switch, and the switch plugs into
> the loom. On my Yam, and on my old Kawasaki 750 before that, you
> simply unplugged the switch and joined the two connectors left hanging
> from the loom. Job done.
> It's exactly the same on my BMW, as well, 'cos I checked in case I
> ever need to do it (the switch connects into the loom behind the
> right- hand side panel, I've found).
However, circumventing the switch still doesn't fix the weak spring he
mentioned.
Posted by TOG@Toil on July 7, 2009, 10:13 am
> TOG@Toil wrote:
> >> Thanks for the help everyone. I'll try the suggestions. This is sure
> >> a hard bike to work on. It's like a Chinese puzzle, except it's
> >> Japanese. I never know when some little jiggery part is going to go
> >> SPROING and leap out and bounce away looking for a hiding place.
> >> Well I found out one reason it keeps stopping, the kick stand spring
> >> is weak and so it keeps opening the Up position sensor, which kills
> >> the ignition. Usually, at the most awkward moment in busy traffic.
> >> Doubleplus ungood. Now I gotta find a way to defeat the interlock.
> > Oh Gawd. I hate those sidestand switches: I've had them give trouble
> > on too many bikes, once they've got a few years and a healthy dollop
> > of corrosion on them.
> > The last one I disconnected was on my Yamama XT600E dirt bike, last
> > year.
> > There are only two wires from the switch, and the switch plugs into
> > the loom. On my Yam, and on my old Kawasaki 750 before that, you
> > simply unplugged the switch and joined the two connectors left hanging
> > from the loom. Job done.
> > It's exactly the same on my BMW, as well, 'cos I checked in case I
> > ever need to do it (the switch connects into the loom behind the
> > right- hand side panel, I've found).
> However, circumventing the switch still doesn't fix the weak spring he
> mentioned.
No, but the hassle is more easily avoided by junking the switch
anyway. Unless the sidestand spring is so weak that that the stand
flops down of its own volition, in which case, yeah replace the
spring.
*And* get rid of the switch.
Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BF?= on July 7, 2009, 8:37 am
> Thanks for the help everyone. I'll try the suggestions. This is sure
> a hard bike to work on. It's like a Chinese puzzle, except it's
> Japanese. I never know when some little jiggery part is going to go
> SPROING and leap out and bounce away looking for a hiding place.
The derailleur on my mountain bike is more mysterious than your whole
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> I have never fallen because I forgot to put a stand up. Got a scare or two
> but never fallen or dropped a bike.
> Has anybody or is it like el chupacabra??