Posted by Robert Bolton on June 18, 2006, 6:30 pm
> Road Glidin' Don wrote:
>>
>> >Allan has always seemed to be a pretty decent guy in his postings to
>> >reeky
>>
>> That's all that matters to me.
>>
>> Maybe he's misstepped in other newsgroups, but the tone of his
>> detractors in their eagerness to pile on isn't that admirable either.
> Be serious. If that incident had happened in reeky instead of
> aus.moto, we'd all be just as indignant. And rightfully so.
I thnk whether or not people were indignant would depend on who did it. Pretty
people get away with murder you know. It's been proven.
> Getting someone's account revoked is not sporting, and
> to do it over something so trivial as an altered URL seems
> so... well, "petty" is the appropriate word..
I think people have a responsibility to consider the temperment of the person
they're messing with. Allen strikes me as a relatively serious person who
doesn't fight for sport.
>> Around here, Allan injects a bit of sane advice into discussions, when
>> it comes to riding techniques. Even if they don't like him, there's
>> sure a lot worse advice going around. And if some people just don't
>> like his tone, they don't have to make this big deal over it.
>>
> Like whining to his ISP?
He probably has nothing to fear from his ISP. Whining about tone certainly
won't have any effect and I doubt he's been altering anyone's URL or creating
rumors of people being child molesters. In general I agree with your philosophy
that reporting to an ISP is going too far, but I have to agree with Don that
Allen hasn't been a problem in Reeky. In the example of Kieth, while I thnk
that was not really any of Allen's business, Kieth's apparent slander was so far
out of line I can't fault Allen there. It's in everyone's interest to stifle
intentional acts meant to do genuine harm, and that's the way I took Kieth's
post. Contacting an ISP can certainly be taken the same way, but there's a
difference to me.
> Don't get me wrong: I agree with you that I'd like to continue
> to see Allan post in rec.motorcycles. He does add a different
> perspective on things, and he's always been quite measured
> and polite in here.
> However, he seems to have made quite a different impression
> on the aussies. <shrug>
I actually read most of your posts, Mike. It seems you are truly discussing
this even though you have a formed opinion. I appreciate that.
My 2 cents anyway. With rare exception, contacting an ISP is bad form....but
not always.
Robert
Posted by Smee on June 19, 2006, 1:08 am
Robert Bolton wrote:
>
> My 2 cents anyway. With rare exception, contacting an ISP is bad form....but
> not always.
> Robert
In the case stated and shown in google it is not only bad form but
completely cowardly.
Have you followed this thread where allan has then made false claims
about how slurs on his family were made when google archives show no
such thing?
That not only makes him a little girly tattle tale but also a big fat Liar.
Posted by sqidbait on June 22, 2006, 4:24 am
Robert Bolton wrote:
[snip]
> > Be serious. If that incident had happened in reeky instead of
> > aus.moto, we'd all be just as indignant. And rightfully so.
> >
> I thnk whether or not people were indignant would depend on who did it. Pretty
> people get away with murder you know. It's been proven.
Possibly. OTOH, when Allan tried to drum up support for
reporting one of the Walkers last year, he didn't get much support.
> > Getting someone's account revoked is not sporting, and
> > to do it over something so trivial as an altered URL seems
> > so... well, "petty" is the appropriate word..
> >
> I think people have a responsibility to consider the temperment of the person
> they're messing with. Allen strikes me as a relatively serious person who
> doesn't fight for sport.
After reading the archives, I have a somewhat different impression.
> >> Around here, Allan injects a bit of sane advice into discussions, when
> >> it comes to riding techniques. Even if they don't like him, there's
> >> sure a lot worse advice going around. And if some people just don't
> >> like his tone, they don't have to make this big deal over it.
> >>
> >
> > Like whining to his ISP?
> >
> He probably has nothing to fear from his ISP. Whining about tone certainly
> won't have any effect and I doubt he's been altering anyone's URL or creating
> rumors of people being child molesters. In general I agree with your
philosophy
> that reporting to an ISP is going too far, but I have to agree with Don that
> Allen hasn't been a problem in Reeky. In the example of Kieth, while I thnk
> that was not really any of Allen's business, Kieth's apparent slander was so
far
> out of line I can't fault Allen there. It's in everyone's interest to stifle
> intentional acts meant to do genuine harm, and that's the way I took Kieth's
> post. Contacting an ISP can certainly be taken the same way, but there's a
> difference to me.
Stifle intentional acts to cause harm? Please.
Reeky is a newsgroup; it's not real life.
-- Michael
Posted by paulh on June 14, 2006, 4:38 am
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:02:32 GMT, langkd_NO_SPAM@shaw.ca (Road Glidin'
Don) wrote:
>>Allan has always seemed to be a pretty decent guy in his postings to
>>reeky
>That's all that matters to me.
>Maybe he's misstepped in other newsgroups, but the tone of his
>detractors in their eagerness to pile on isn't that admirable either.
Alas aus.moto is currently having an official Harsh Week. If his posts
had turned up at any other time we would have been a bit nicer..
paulh
Posted by smack on June 14, 2006, 9:22 pm
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:02:32 GMT, langkd_NO_SPAM@shaw.ca (Road Glidin'
> Don) wrote:
>>
>>>Allan has always seemed to be a pretty decent guy in his postings to
>>>reeky
>>
>>That's all that matters to me.
>>
>>Maybe he's misstepped in other newsgroups, but the tone of his
>>detractors in their eagerness to pile on isn't that admirable either.
> Alas aus.moto is currently having an official Harsh Week. If his posts
> had turned up at any other time we would have been a bit nicer..
> paulh
what day of harsh week is it now, Iain??????
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>>
>> >Allan has always seemed to be a pretty decent guy in his postings to
>> >reeky
>>
>> That's all that matters to me.
>>
>> Maybe he's misstepped in other newsgroups, but the tone of his
>> detractors in their eagerness to pile on isn't that admirable either.
> Be serious. If that incident had happened in reeky instead of
> aus.moto, we'd all be just as indignant. And rightfully so.