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Posted by Road Glidin' Don on July 3, 2008, 1:57 pm
> I have no exposure to wildlife, so I could be spouting pure rubbish. =A0T=
he
> closest things I have to wildlife eat canned cat food ...
Amazing how book-smart you can become about the wild, without ever
venturing into it. I've seen cougars in the wild and shot bears
before. ;)
But you make a good point. Unlike bears, if a cougar attacks, it's
definitely with the intent to make a meal out of you, so you might as
well fight.
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Posted by on July 3, 2008, 2:06 pm
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT), "Road Glidin' Don"
>
>> I have no exposure to wildlife, so I could be spouting pure rubbish. The
>> closest things I have to wildlife eat canned cat food ...
>
>Amazing how book-smart you can become about the wild, without ever
>venturing into it. I've seen cougars in the wild and shot bears
>before. ;)
>
>But you make a good point. Unlike bears, if a cougar attacks, it's
>definitely with the intent to make a meal out of you, so you might as
>well fight.
Fuck that. Let 'em eat ! Except the two in the back - they
look kind of nasty .....
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Posted by BryanUT on July 3, 2008, 5:18 pm
>> I have no exposure to wildlife, so I could be spouting pure rubbish. The
>> closest things I have to wildlife eat canned cat food ...
>Amazing how book-smart you can become about the wild, without ever
>venturing into it. I've seen cougars in the wild and shot bears
>before. ;)
I've come across moutain lions twice in my life, both while riding mountian
bikes, once in a group near Sundance Utah and once alone in the Santa Cruz
mountains. I've only come across bear in/near Jackson Hole / Grand Tetons,
while walking the dogs.
Big predators should be feared, but not killed to extiction.
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Posted by David T. Ashley on July 3, 2008, 5:18 pm
>
>> I have no exposure to wildlife, so I could be spouting pure rubbish. The
>> closest things I have to wildlife eat canned cat food ...
>
>Amazing how book-smart you can become about the wild, without ever
>venturing into it. I've seen cougars in the wild and shot bears
>before. ;)
>
>But you make a good point. Unlike bears, if a cougar attacks, it's
>definitely with the intent to make a meal out of you, so you might as
>well fight.
I'm addicted to shows like "Seconds from Disaster" and "Air Emergency".
There was one on about bear attacks where they had interviews with
approximately 4 people who had been roughed up by a bear. In all four
cases, the words "I didn't know a bear could ..." were uttered.
One gal climbed a tree to avoid a bear that had already fatally roughed up
her husband. The bear followed her up the tree, dislodged her and caused
her to fall 20 or 30 feet to the ground, then climbed back down the tree and
proceeded to teach her a lesson. Unfortunately, she ended up missing an
eye. Her words were "I didn't know bears could climb trees."
Another guy was a mountain biker, and he accidentally went riding by a
mother and her cubs. He figured that since he was already retreating, all
he had to do was pedal fast and the bear wouldn't have incentive to give
chase. Wrong. It took the bear about 100 yards, and she was (by his
account) really huffing and puffing, but she caught him, dislodged him from
the bike, and began to teach him a lesson. His words were "I didn't know a
bear could catch a mountain bike".
It amazes me that a bear would go to such effort to just deliver a
butt-kicking, but they apparently do that from time to time. It amazes me
that an animal that can so easily decisively kill often doesn't.
Of course, the bear may actually intend to kill in some sense, just not
quickly. Most of the wounds described (punctured lungs, severe lacerations
and punctures) would be fatal without competent medical attention. The bear
may figure "good as dead", not having figured out that there are medical
schools, doctors, hospitals, etc. In other words, the bear may be applying
a level of force that would be fatal to typical wild animals because they
don't get medical attention.
Apparently many or most of the predatory attacks on humans by bears are
adolescent bears who are hungry and having a hard time finding other prey.
I'm definitely a TV addict.
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Posted by Road Glidin' Don on July 3, 2008, 5:33 pm
> Another guy was a mountain biker, and he accidentally went riding by a
> mother and her cubs. =A0He figured that since he was already retreating, =
all
> he had to do was pedal fast and the bear wouldn't have incentive to give
> chase. =A0Wrong. =A0It took the bear about 100 yards, and she was (by his
> account) really huffing and puffing, but she caught him, dislodged him fr=
om
> the bike, and began to teach him a lesson. =A0His words were "I didn't kn=
ow a
> bear could catch a mountain bike".
It's not generally known how fast bears are capable of running. I
heard it said that, over a short distance, their speed is equal to a
thoroughbred race horse. You won't be out running one with a mountain
bike.
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