Posted by . on February 15, 2008, 7:12 pm
> I know which is the better gun for killing, maiming and such, but I'm
> thinking the Mosquito with the 22 long rifle, hollow point ammo would be a
> better choice, �all around, to put in the saddle bags (or back pack) on long
> trips and camping expeditions.
You gonna use it before, or after the locals make you squeal like a
pig?
Posted by David T. Ashley on February 15, 2008, 10:14 pm
> Which would be the better pistol for motorcycling?
> The Colt Commander or the Sig Mosquito?
> I know which is the better gun for killing, maiming and such, but I'm
> thinking the Mosquito with the 22 long rifle, hollow point ammo would be a
> better choice, all around, to put in the saddle bags (or back pack) on
> long trips and camping expeditions.
These debates have gone on in the law enforcement community for quite some
time. The basic tradeoff is between stopping power and magazine capacity.
First of all, I would not buy a Glock for the use you outlined. As you
probably know, the Glock has no safety other than a "brush" trigger safety
and a mechanical design that eliminates single points of failure (i.e. the
weapon will absolutely not discharge unless the trigger is pulled). The
weapon is applicable for a law enforcement officer who wears a holster, but
it is not the kind of weapon you want to throw in a bag ... too much danger
of an accidental discharge as you're groping for it, rearranging stuff, etc.
(Although I hope it would be in a holster in the bag.)
I would go with:
a).40 cal. (quite a bit of stopping power).
b)Conventional design with a safety and/or double action with a very stiff
trigger pull on the first shot.
c)Weapon with a proven reliability record.
d)High magazine capacity.
The SigSauer P226 seems suitable. 12+1 rounds is good enough. Other
manufacturers may have similar offerings.
However, if you went with a Glock, nothing beats the Glock 21 (.45 ACP, 13+1
rounds).
If you were to purchase a Glock, there are internal parts replacements that
raise the trigger pull to about 10 lbs. I would recommend that if you are
going to pack it or carry it. If you have any questions about which parts,
where to buy them, and who is authorized to do the work, please write me
directly.
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Posted by .p.jm on February 15, 2008, 11:24 pm
wrote:
>> Which would be the better pistol for motorcycling?
>>
>> The Colt Commander or the Sig Mosquito?
>>
>> I know which is the better gun for killing, maiming and such, but I'm
>> thinking the Mosquito with the 22 long rifle, hollow point ammo would be a
>> better choice, all around, to put in the saddle bags (or back pack) on
>> long trips and camping expeditions.
>These debates have gone on in the law enforcement community for quite some
>time. The basic tradeoff is between stopping power and magazine capacity.
>First of all, I would not buy a Glock for the use you outlined. As you
>probably know, the Glock has no safety other than a "brush" trigger safety
>and a mechanical design that eliminates single points of failure (i.e. the
>weapon will absolutely not discharge unless the trigger is pulled). The
>weapon is applicable for a law enforcement officer who wears a holster, but
>it is not the kind of weapon you want to throw in a bag ... too much danger
>of an accidental discharge as you're groping for it, rearranging stuff, etc.
>(Although I hope it would be in a holster in the bag.)
>I would go with:
>a).40 cal. (quite a bit of stopping power).
>b)Conventional design with a safety and/or double action with a very stiff
>trigger pull on the first shot.
>c)Weapon with a proven reliability record.
>d)High magazine capacity.
>The SigSauer P226 seems suitable. 12+1 rounds is good enough. Other
>manufacturers may have similar offerings.
>However, if you went with a Glock, nothing beats the Glock 21 (.45 ACP, 13+1
>rounds).
With the cute li'l mag extenders for another +2 :-)
>If you were to purchase a Glock, there are internal parts replacements that
>raise the trigger pull to about 10 lbs. I would recommend that if you are
>going to pack it or carry it. If you have any questions about which parts,
>where to buy them, and who is authorized to do the work, please write me
>directly.
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Posted by David T. Ashley on February 16, 2008, 6:16 pm
>>
>>However, if you went with a Glock, nothing beats the Glock 21 (.45 ACP,
>>13+1
>>rounds).
> With the cute li'l mag extenders for another +2 :-)
That is obscene. If a bear (for example) doesn't get the "not a good meal"
message after 16 rounds of .45 ACP, it deserves to eat its victim.
Clearly, a .45 will discourage a person.
I don't know enough about bears, etc. to know how physiologically tough they
are. I think Lewis and Clark wrote that grizzly bears were the toughest
critter they had ever seen and that if you didn't get it in the head first
time you were lunch. I don't know what a .45 will do to a bear,
particularly if one is a bad shot.
And then there are the zoo tigers to content with. If you're gonna taunt
tigers, you'd better be packing.
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Posted by . on February 16, 2008, 7:05 pm
> Clearly, a .45 will discourage a person.
Discourage? It will knock him on his ass.
Back during the Phillipine Insurrection, a .38 caliber service
revolver wouldn't knock down a Flip armed with a bolo.
So the .45 auto was invented.
> thinking the Mosquito with the 22 long rifle, hollow point ammo would be a
> better choice, �all around, to put in the saddle bags (or back pack) on long
> trips and camping expeditions.