Posted by J. Clarke on February 17, 2008, 10:29 am
P. Roehling wrote:
>> The .45 definitely will definitely take care of people. I'm just
>> curious about the nasty animals.
> There probably isn't a handgun on the planet that will reliably drop
> a 1,000 lb. + grizzly bear with one shot unless you're cool -and
> close, and lucky- enough to make a successful brain or spine shot on
> the first try...
Will a handgun of any kind penetrate a bear's skull reliably from the
front? Looks to me like it's nice sloped armor.
> I did once see film of a charging Griz being knocked right over
> backwards by the slug from a Sharps .50 caliber black powder buffalo
> gun, but that's not really what you'd call a handgun, and in
> addition
> it has the serious flaw of only giving you one (*1*) shot per bear
> charge.
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Posted by P. Roehling on February 17, 2008, 5:53 pm
> Will a handgun of any kind penetrate a bear's skull reliably from the
> front? Looks to me like it's nice sloped armor.
I once read a firsthand account in "Field & Stream" about an Alaskan
horse-packer who dropped an attacking Grix in it's tracks with one head shot
from a .44 Magnum, but I wouldn't bet on being able to pull the trick off a
second time.
Alan Moore has a point about handguns being primarily useful as
bear-scarers, though. A backpacking Biologist friend of mine was stalked for
two days by a Griz in Glacier National Park, and the only thing that saved
him was his illegally-carried handgun, with which he shot just *past* the
bear, scaring it off temporarily and repeatedly.
Fortunately, he got back to his truck before he ran out of shells.
Posted by .p.jm on February 17, 2008, 6:04 pm
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:53:49 GMT, langkd_NO_SPAM@shaw.ca (Road Glidin'
Don) wrote:
>from Vatican security came to our gun club one time (years ago, when
>the Pope visited Edmonton). He wanted to see if any of our handguns
>could shoot through the thick plexiglass they had constructed the
>Pope-mobile's bubble out of. My XP punched nice, clean holes right
>through it with every shot (the only gun that did). .44 mags hardly
>even dented it. That was back in the day when Handgun Metallic
>Silhouette competitions were quite popular.
That was pretty stupid. now the next time the Pope wakes up
and finds holes in his window, he's gonna know just who to look for.
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Posted by Robert Bolton on February 17, 2008, 6:52 pm
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:29:20 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>>P. Roehling wrote:
>>>
>>>> The .45 definitely will definitely take care of people. I'm just
>>>> curious about the nasty animals.
>>>
>>> There probably isn't a handgun on the planet that will reliably drop
>>> a 1,000 lb. + grizzly bear with one shot unless you're cool -and
>>> close, and lucky- enough to make a successful brain or spine shot on
>>> the first try...
>>
>>Will a handgun of any kind penetrate a bear's skull reliably from the
>>front? Looks to me like it's nice sloped armor.
> When I used to go backpacking, I routinely carried a handgun. I
> thought of it as a noisemaker -- bears don't like loud noises, and can
> be discouraged if they aren't already angry of defensive. Be careful,
> however, not to hit the bear. This will make him angry.
A woman did just what you mentioned a few summers back in Eagle River up
here. A grizzly came out of th woods, the mother and her two kids walked
out into the river, but after awhile the mother fired a few shots and
scared the bear off.
Here's a really good story about a lucky shot -
http://www.remodeling.hw.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID 3&articleIDC7798
Here's the Treadwell story. A trooper shot a bear twelve times with a
pistol before it went down.
http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/ak_bearattack/index.htm
Robert
Posted by Thumper on February 18, 2008, 12:44 pm
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:29:20 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>>
>>>P. Roehling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The .45 definitely will definitely take care of people. I'm just
>>>>> curious about the nasty animals.
>>>>
>>>> There probably isn't a handgun on the planet that will reliably drop
>>>> a 1,000 lb. + grizzly bear with one shot unless you're cool -and
>>>> close, and lucky- enough to make a successful brain or spine shot on
>>>> the first try...
>>>
>>>Will a handgun of any kind penetrate a bear's skull reliably from the
>>>front? Looks to me like it's nice sloped armor.
>>
>> When I used to go backpacking, I routinely carried a handgun. I
>> thought of it as a noisemaker -- bears don't like loud noises, and can
>> be discouraged if they aren't already angry of defensive. Be careful,
>> however, not to hit the bear. This will make him angry.
>>
> A woman did just what you mentioned a few summers back in Eagle River up
> here. A grizzly came out of th woods, the mother and her two kids walked
> out into the river, but after awhile the mother fired a few shots and
> scared the bear off.
> Here's a really good story about a lucky shot -
> http://www.remodeling.hw.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID 3&articleIDC7798
> Here's the Treadwell story. A trooper shot a bear twelve times with a
> pistol before it went down.
> http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/ak_bearattack/index.htm
> Robert
That story is unbearable.
(please don't hit me with a pan).
Thumper
>> curious about the nasty animals.
> There probably isn't a handgun on the planet that will reliably drop
> a 1,000 lb. + grizzly bear with one shot unless you're cool -and
> close, and lucky- enough to make a successful brain or spine shot on
> the first try...