Posted by Sean on January 31, 2008, 3:57 pm
I've found a buyer for my Vespacar truckster, which would finance
installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
However, the installer strongly recommends a steering mod, which
would make the bike undriveable on its own, so it becomes dedicated
to sidecar only. Uh oh, decision time. It's like *losing* my trusty S40
that I'm so fond of. Mebbe I should buy some old beater of a 750
and use that instead.
I found some guy's blog who fitted a 562E onto a '77 BMW R100/7:
http://www.tikaro.com/motorcycles/
The hack sure looks big in comparison to his bike (and the S40
is even smaller):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tikaro/20355503/
One reason for the sidecar was so I could drive in the snow
without the bike falling over... well we just got some snow recently
and I think the whole rig would just sit there spinning its rear wheel.
Ural?
Sean_Q_
Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on January 31, 2008, 4:51 pm
Sean wrote:
> I've found a buyer for my Vespacar truckster, which would finance
> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
>
> However, the installer strongly recommends a steering mod, which
> would make the bike undriveable on its own, so it becomes dedicated
> to sidecar only. Uh oh, decision time. It's like *losing* my trusty
> S40 that I'm so fond of. Mebbe I should buy some old beater of a 750
> and use that instead.
Your S40 is awfully light for this, or any full-size, sidecar.
> I found some guy's blog who fitted a 562E onto a '77 BMW R100/7:
>
> http://www.tikaro.com/motorcycles/
As I mentioned earlier, I had a California Frendship II on an '81 R100
and it handled the 240 pound hack rather well. I did not put a leading
link fork on it, though it does help with steering.
> One reason for the sidecar was so I could drive in the snow without
> the bike falling over... well we just got some snow recently and I
> think the whole rig would just sit there spinning its rear wheel.
Get some stout rope and wrap it around the rear wheel like a chain. Tie
a firm knot.
I really never had any trouble driving in snow. Don't do this until you
have a lot of experience, though.
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Posted by Sean on February 1, 2008, 4:09 am
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
>>
> Your S40 is awfully light for this, or any full-size, sidecar.
I wanted to keep the rig light because it has no reverse gear.
This site http://www.themotocycleshop.com/SideCars.htm says:
The Velorex 562 is a classic European style sidecar for your
motorcycle. Constructed of fiberglass, it is durable and lightweight.
It is the most reasonably priced sidecar in the world today,
and it will complement any motorcycle 400cc or larger.
Specifications:
Length: 6' 1.5" (187cm)
Width: 30" (76cm)
Height: 46" (117cm)
Wheel: 16"
Tire: 3.50 x 16
Weight: 154 lbs (69kgs)
Leg Room: 46.5" (118cm)
Hip Room: 20" (51cm)
Ground Clearance: 8" (20cm)
Electrical System: 12v
The sidecar shop sent me a pic of an S40 that they fitted to
a Champion Escort, which is even heavier (and meant for 750cc+):
From http://www.championsidecars.com/sidecars/specs.aspx
ESCORT SPECIFICATIONS
Overall width 37 in
Overall length 78 in
Height to windshield 50 in
Net weight 190 lbs
Ground clearance 7 in
Hip room 26 in
Leg room 51 in
Shoulder Width 26 in
Load capacity 450 lbs
Tire size 145SR 13 (tubeless)
Motorcycle engine size 750 cc and larger
Trunk Capacity 5 CF
SQ
Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on February 1, 2008, 8:25 am
Sean wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>>> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
>>>
>> Your S40 is awfully light for this, or any full-size, sidecar.
>
> I wanted to keep the rig light because it has no reverse gear.
You learn quickly to not drive yourself into a situation where reverse
would be required. But it is normally easy to back up, by standing next
to the bike, holding handlebars, and walking backwards, hip against left
side of seat. I had no reverse on my rigs.
> This site http://www.themotocycleshop.com/SideCars.htm says:
>
> The Velorex 562 is a classic European style sidecar for your
> motorcycle. Constructed of fiberglass, it is durable and lightweight.
> It is the most reasonably priced sidecar in the world today,
> and it will complement any motorcycle 400cc or larger.
>
> Weight: 154 lbs (69kgs)
>
> The sidecar shop sent me a pic of an S40 that they fitted to
> a Champion Escort, which is even heavier (and meant for 750cc+):
>
> From http://www.championsidecars.com/sidecars/specs.aspx
>
> ESCORT SPECIFICATIONS
> Net weight 190 lbs
You may certainly use the S40 if you want to, though I wouldn't
recommend it. Also remember your standard gas tank is a bit small, as
your mileage will be considerably lower with the sidecar.
What are the specs for the S40's horsepower and torque?
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Posted by concho-vtx1300 on February 1, 2008, 12:23 pm
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:25:00 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
>Sean wrote:
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>>> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
>>>>
>>> Your S40 is awfully light for this, or any full-size, sidecar.
>>
>> I wanted to keep the rig light because it has no reverse gear.
>You learn quickly to not drive yourself into a situation where reverse
>would be required. But it is normally easy to back up, by standing next
>to the bike, holding handlebars, and walking backwards, hip against left
>side of seat. I had no reverse on my rigs.
I have 2 bad legs and I can manage to back my 1,000# rig up without
any trouble. You do have to use care not to park downhill and expect
to backup easily.
>> This site http://www.themotocycleshop.com/SideCars.htm says:
>>
>> The Velorex 562 is a classic European style sidecar for your
>> motorcycle. Constructed of fiberglass, it is durable and lightweight.
>> It is the most reasonably priced sidecar in the world today,
>> and it will complement any motorcycle 400cc or larger.
>>
>> Weight: 154 lbs (69kgs)
>>
>> The sidecar shop sent me a pic of an S40 that they fitted to
>> a Champion Escort, which is even heavier (and meant for 750cc+):
>>
>> From http://www.championsidecars.com/sidecars/specs.aspx
>>
>> ESCORT SPECIFICATIONS
>> Net weight 190 lbs
>You may certainly use the S40 if you want to, though I wouldn't
>recommend it. Also remember your standard gas tank is a bit small, as
>your mileage will be considerably lower with the sidecar.
I lost about 5 mpg at freeway speed with the sidecar. the windshield
on the Velorex is quite high and I intend to cut it down by half as
I don't intend to ride passengers very often. It probably won't make
much difference in mileage but I think It'll look better......8^)
>What are the specs for the S40's horsepower and torque?
> installation of a Velorex 562 onto my Suzuki S40 (aka Savage LS650).
>
> However, the installer strongly recommends a steering mod, which
> would make the bike undriveable on its own, so it becomes dedicated
> to sidecar only. Uh oh, decision time. It's like *losing* my trusty
> S40 that I'm so fond of. Mebbe I should buy some old beater of a 750
> and use that instead.