Posted by Tim Morrow on January 30, 2008, 11:21 am
I've recently heard that the 45 degree found in cruisers don't deliver
enough of a steady power delivery needed for a sportbike ride return.
They also don't have the opposition needed to hold a good handling
balance. That's why there's no sportbike using a 45 degree V2.
Aprilia is the most successful maker of the 60 degree V2, and many
riders arguably don't like the motor because it's still too harsh with
how it handles. Is this true?
Yet, I've also hear that power is power. You make 120hp, it's the same
no matter what type
of engine it is. Where it peaks and makes that power is what's
different. The reason sportbikes don't use the 45 degree V2 motors has
to do with their handling, not a lack of power or torque. What do you
think?
Also, I was told that "going from an I4 to a V2 would be a blast of a
light twitchy frontal bike," what does that mean?
Posted by Vic on January 30, 2008, 12:34 pm
> I've recently heard that the 45 degree found in cruisers don't deliver
> enough of a steady power delivery needed for a sportbike ride return.
> They also don't have the opposition needed to hold a good handling
> balance. That's why there's no sportbike using a 45 degree V2.
> Aprilia is the most successful maker of the 60 degree V2, and many
> riders arguably don't like the motor because it's still too harsh with
> how it handles. Is this true?
> Yet, I've also hear that power is power. You make 120hp, it's the same
> no matter what type
> of engine it is. Where it peaks and makes that power is what's
> different. The reason sportbikes don't use the 45 degree V2 motors has
> to do with their handling, not a lack of power or torque. What do you
> think?
I think it would be unwise to argue with him. He seems to have found bliss
in his own ignorance. I wonder if he's any relation the that old guy that
was on here a while back that was trying to tell us how important it was to
learn how to use the bikes engine to achieve maximum stopping power in a
panic situation?...lol
> Also, I was told that "going from an I4 to a V2 would be a blast of a
> light twitchy frontal bike," what does that mean?
If that's an exact quote, I would say it means he has as little knowlege
of the english language as he does about power and motorcycles...lol..
Vic
Posted by Tim Morrow on January 30, 2008, 2:23 pm
> > I've recently heard that the 45 degree found in cruisers don't deliver
> > enough of a steady power delivery needed for a sportbike ride return.
> > They also don't have the opposition needed to hold a good handling
> > balance. That's why there's no sportbike using a 45 degree V2.
> > Aprilia is the most successful maker of the 60 degree V2, and many
> > riders arguably don't like the motor because it's still too harsh with
> > how it handles. Is this true?
> > Yet, I've also hear that power is power. You make 120hp, it's the same
> > no matter what type
> > of engine it is. Where it peaks and makes that power is what's
> > different. The reason sportbikes don't use the 45 degree V2 motors has
> > to do with their handling, not a lack of power or torque. What do you
> > think?
> I think it would be unwise to argue with him. He seems to have found bliss
> in his own ignorance. I wonder if he's any relation the that old guy that
> was on here a while back that was trying to tell us how important it was to
> learn how to use the bikes engine to achieve maximum stopping power in a
> panic situation?...lol
> > Also, I was told that "going from an I4 to a V2 would be a blast of a
> > light twitchy frontal bike," what does that mean?
> If that's an exact quote, I would say it means he has as little knowlege
> of the english language as he does about power and motorcycles...lol..
> Vic
I was hoping you or Bob Nephets or Calgary would weigh in on thes
questions. Thanks, Vic.
Posted by Vic on January 30, 2008, 3:51 pm
> > I've recently heard that the 45 degree found in cruisers don't deliver
> > enough of a steady power delivery needed for a sportbike ride return.
> > They also don't have the opposition needed to hold a good handling
> > balance. That's why there's no sportbike using a 45 degree V2.
> > Aprilia is the most successful maker of the 60 degree V2, and many
> > riders arguably don't like the motor because it's still too harsh with
> > how it handles. Is this true?
> > Yet, I've also hear that power is power. You make 120hp, it's the same
> > no matter what type
> > of engine it is. Where it peaks and makes that power is what's
> > different. The reason sportbikes don't use the 45 degree V2 motors has
> > to do with their handling, not a lack of power or torque. What do you
> > think?
> I think it would be unwise to argue with him. He seems to have found bliss
> in his own ignorance. I wonder if he's any relation the that old guy that
> was on here a while back that was trying to tell us how important it was
to
> learn how to use the bikes engine to achieve maximum stopping power in a
> panic situation?...lol
> > Also, I was told that "going from an I4 to a V2 would be a blast of a
> > light twitchy frontal bike," what does that mean?
> If that's an exact quote, I would say it means he has as little knowlege
> of the english language as he does about power and motorcycles...lol..
> Vic
I was hoping you or Bob Nephets or Calgary would weigh in on thes
questions. Thanks, Vic.
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Always happy to help, Tim. I almost posted a response to the original
post, where all the above was said, but then concidered the sourse. I didn't
want to upset the little guy, and have him accuse me of picking on him
again....lol.
Posted by Stephen! on January 30, 2008, 5:00 pm
d224c70785aa@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
> I was hoping you or Bob Nephets or Calgary would weigh in on thes
> questions. Thanks, Vic.
Haven't heard from Bob for a long time... Wonder if he's still around.
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> enough of a steady power delivery needed for a sportbike ride return.
> They also don't have the opposition needed to hold a good handling
> balance. That's why there's no sportbike using a 45 degree V2.
> Aprilia is the most successful maker of the 60 degree V2, and many
> riders arguably don't like the motor because it's still too harsh with
> how it handles. Is this true?
> Yet, I've also hear that power is power. You make 120hp, it's the same
> no matter what type
> of engine it is. Where it peaks and makes that power is what's
> different. The reason sportbikes don't use the 45 degree V2 motors has
> to do with their handling, not a lack of power or torque. What do you
> think?