Posted by Waz on February 11, 2010, 3:58 am
> Okay, given that his description as a spacer might not be the correct one
> and as you didn't see the video
> I will let you off this time.
Yes, sorry, it's a spacer not a bushing.
And to address the question: why didn't we heat-soften it, then cut
it, then attempt to harden it again to engineering standards that will
allow it to run inside full-complement needle roller bearings under
full suspension load without being quickly destroyed?
Answer:: because we have a lathe, a Dremel, some angle iron and hose
clamps. And I know which way seems easier to me!
Cheers guys, enjoying the discussion, even the peripheral flaming!
Waz from Garage Night TV
Posted by George W Frost on February 11, 2010, 6:21 am
> Okay, given that his description as a spacer might not be the correct one
> and as you didn't see the video
> I will let you off this time.
Yes, sorry, it's a spacer not a bushing.
And to address the question: why didn't we heat-soften it, then cut
it, then attempt to harden it again to engineering standards that will
allow it to run inside full-complement needle roller bearings under
full suspension load without being quickly destroyed?
Answer:: because we have a lathe, a Dremel, some angle iron and hose
clamps. And I know which way seems easier to me!
Cheers guys, enjoying the discussion, even the peripheral flaming!
Waz from Garage Night TV
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Stay tuned Waz, there will be more, you can count on it.
Posted by BT Humble on February 11, 2010, 6:26 am
Waz wrote:
> Yes, sorry, it's a spacer not a bushing.
I think I'm suffering from semantic confusion here. This is how I
would make a distinction between a bushing and a spacer:
1. If it's a cylindrical piece of metal with a hole down the centre[1]
carrying a load on its concave and convex faces, I'd call it a
bushing.
2. If it's a cylindrical piece of metal with a hole down the centre
that's being used instead of a stack of washers, I'd call it a spacer.
Based on that, it appears to me that what you've actually got there is
a bushing. And so in that case no, I wouldn't try home heat-treatment
unless I had no other option.
> And to address the question: why didn't we heat-soften it, then cut
> it, then attempt to harden it again to engineering standards that will
> allow it to run inside full-complement needle roller bearings under
> full suspension load without being quickly destroyed?
> Answer:: because we have a lathe, a Dremel, some angle iron and hose
> clamps. And I know which way seems easier to me!
You are, of course, correct.
BTH
[1] Before Nev points out that that it would be possible to drill the
hole through the centre of the bushing the other way, the orientation
of the hole that I'm talking about is equivalent to a stack of
washers.
Posted by Waz on February 11, 2010, 8:07 am
> Waz wrote:
> > Yes, sorry, it's a spacer not a bushing.
> I think I'm suffering from semantic confusion here.
> 1. If it's a cylindrical piece of metal with a hole down the centre[1]
> carrying a load on its concave and convex faces, I'd call it a
> bushing.
OK then, it's a bushing!
Seriously though I think either is acceptable. The Ducati catalogue
calls it a spacer, for example.
Like you, I think bushing is more correct, but in these days of search
engine optimisation it's good to include both terms. More people will
know what you're talking about if you just call it a spacer.
Waz from Garage Night TV
Posted by G-S on February 11, 2010, 2:39 pm
BT Humble wrote:
> BTH
> [1] Before Nev points out that that it would be possible to drill the
> hole through the centre of the bushing the other way, the orientation
> of the hole that I'm talking about is equivalent to a stack of
> washers.
I think you've left him some ambiguity BT...
G-S
> and as you didn't see the video
> I will let you off this time.