I've got a 84 Gold Wing with those damned self cancelling turn signals that
never work right. Does anyone know of a way to disable this feature so they
just stay on till I turn them off. Thanks Runk.........
> I've got a 84 Gold Wing with those damned self cancelling turn signals that
> never work right. Does anyone know of a way to disable this feature so they
> just stay on till I turn them off. Thanks Runk.........
On my older Yamahas, I would just remove the control unit and they
worked as manual turn signals. Check out the wiring diagram for your
bike and see if there is a plug-n-play control unit that you can
simply disconnect.
> I've got a 84 Gold Wing with those damned self cancelling turn signals
> that never work right. Does anyone know of a way to disable this feature
> so they just stay on till I turn them off. Thanks Runk.........
From http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum1/45218.html
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The turn signal relay and hazard flasher relays are both located under the
seat. There are two different units located under the ignition coils. On
the right-hand side under the ignition coil is the position light relay
(sometimes called the running light relay). This relay turns OFF the second
(running light) filament in the front fairing turn signal/running light
bulbs when the rider turns on either the left or right turn signals. The
other unit under the coils is the turn signal control unit. This is a solid
state device that sends a signal to the turn signal flasher relay to start
flashing the turn signal, and also sends a signal to cancel the turn signals
after a turn is made and the steering head is returned to near center
(according to the angle sensor on the steering head). One caveat is that
ONLY an '84 GL1200 has the separate turn signal control unit under the
coils. From '85 to '87 the turn signal control unit was combined in the
angle sensor unit that mounts in the bottom of the steering head.
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From what I gather the turn signal switch on the handlebars is momentary
contact. I think you are pretty much screwed unless you are willing to do a
lot of rewiring. It is -- from the descriptions I've read -- a complex
arrangement of relays and switches.
It depends on whether the GoldWing has a manual mechanism for canceling the
turn signals (another momentary-contact switch?). If so, and if the angle
sensor isn't used for anything other than turn signals, you may be able to
just castrate the angle sensor. Or maybe clean or repair it if it will
cause your turn signals to cancel correctly.
On an '84, a hacksaw or soldering iron may be all you need. But for a more
modern motorcycle (and if I were designing the electronics), I'd use one or
two piezoelectric yaw-rate sensors (embedded on a circuit board somewhere)
to avoid any mechanical connection to the steering head. If that were done,
it would all get a lot harder, especially with conformal coating on circuit
boards and so on, and the possibility of the software doing something weird
if it can't sense yaw.
http://mypage.siu.edu/jeepster/vsa1.html
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/14753.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_coating
http://www.garrettcom.com/conformal_coating.htm
The Lizard
> ), I'd use one or two piezoelectric yaw-rate sensors
There shouldn't be any yaw forces on a bike, unless you have a sidecar.
A gyro would work, but it would be a bit overkill for a golding turn signal
system on a bike with very limited charging system surplus.
>> ), I'd use one or two piezoelectric yaw-rate sensors
> There shouldn't be any yaw forces on a bike, unless you have a sidecar.
> A gyro would work, but it would be a bit overkill for a golding turn
> signal system on a bike with very limited charging system surplus.
The rotation of the earth contributes to drift even in hobby grade yaw
sensing gyros. Yaw is present and sensible on a bike in a turn. The current
draw is mere milliamps. If the charging system sags behind, turn off the CB
or coffee warmer until it catches up.
> never work right. Does anyone know of a way to disable this feature so they
> just stay on till I turn them off. Thanks Runk.........