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Sure it was.  I never said that I believe that a moving bike will fall
over as quickly as a stationary bike, and I don't believe that, but
you stated as fact that I do believe that.   You made that up.

As usual, you are incapable of separating your cherished items of
faith from items of objective fact.

This is no longer surprising or noteworthy to anyone who has read more
than one or two of your postings.

 

tomorrow@erols.com wrote:

  twitbull said that, and you ran to his defense and said he was
right when many others showed that he was mistaken. If you're
now agreeing with the rest of us that he's mistaken, you should
say it clearly and honestly. Give it a try. You'll feel better...



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  "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
Albert Einstein.

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tomorrow@erols.com wrote:

  One of the things I like about newgroups is that when people try
to weasel or lie out of their previous remarks, there's a record
that reveals the truth. This can be very frustrating for some people,
but it's been an asset for me. That's why my posts often include
quotes and references. Look at your comment at the end of the quoted
post below. It reads:

  "Aamof, everything he wrote above is entirely correct."

  The word "he" clearly refers to twitbull, and "everything "he
wrote above" includes this passage:

"Note: Left to it's own devices, a non-sidecar bike will fall right
over. And this is equally true whether said bike is moving or at rest.
It's only the kickstand when at rest, or the rider's constant
corrections when moving, that keep it upright."

  So you see, Tim, you did in fact agree with twitbull that a moving
bike will fall over as quickly as a stationary bike. Now you're saying
that you don't believe that. Rather than admit that your mistake, you're
probably going to project your frustration with yourself at me, because
I have again spoken the truth. When you get upset with people because
they display honesty, accuracy, integrity, and credibility, the problem
is most likely on your end. You really should work on that problem and
try to "act more like an adult".... <g>




  tomorrow@erols.com wrote:

 >>>>> Note: Left to it's own devices, a non-sidecar bike will fall right
 >>>>> over. And this is equally true whether said bike is moving or at
 >>>>> rest.
 >>>>> It's only the kickstand when at rest, or the rider's constant
 >>>>> corrections when moving, that keep it upright.


 >>>> You're joking?  I've seen bikes buck their rider off then
 >>>> proceed to the next corner just fine on their own.  I assume
 >>>> you have too.


 >>> Sigh.
 >>> Yes, a bike at speed is dynamically stable. But only until (A) some
 >>> input such as road camber upsets that stability and starts the bike
 >>> leaning towards one side or another, or (B) the bike hits something.
 >>> In the real world, neither thing ever takes very long to occur because
 >>> the slower the bike is going the less stability it has, and the faster
 >>> it's going the more quickly it's likely to laminate itself to an
 >>> immovable object.


 >> You are just not correct.


 > Aamof, everything he wrote above is entirely correct.





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  "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
Albert Einstein.

   http://911research.wtc7.net
   http://www.journalof911studies.com/
   http://www.ae911truth.org

 


No, I did not, and Pete did not say that.   You should re-read what
you quoted.

Pete said that either bike will fall right over.

A stationary bike will fall right over when you let go of the
handlebars because it is stationary.

A moving bike will fall right over when it hits something or slows to
the point that it is no longer stable, which in the real world,
happens right away.  I even cited an example of this happening to
illustrate the point.

If you wish to play word games (of course you do; that is your entire
existence on usenet) you are welcome to, but I'm not going to play.
I've told you this repeatedly, but you are incapable of understanding
how adults interact.

You know as well as I do, as well as Pete does, how motorcycles in
general work, and you know EXACTLY what Pete was saying, and you
simply CHOOSE to misinterpret it so that you can play your silly
little game.

Have fun.

P.S. There's a perfect example of the way adults interact in my
discussion of this exact issue with Stephen!, but never mind that;
you've demonstrated repeatedly that you're not capable of learning
from example.  You obviously prefer personal attacks and name calling.

 


 

Good God. Another one?

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