Posted by Road Glidin' Don on September 24, 2010, 9:50 am
> Well, think it through: since poor Hen3ry lost his job *and* his
> girlfriend, what else does he have to do?
I hear Mahmood I'm-A-Nut-Job is in serious need of a spokesman.
Posted by Road Glidin' Don on September 24, 2010, 9:59 am
> On 9/23/2010 12:26 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:> Tim<tomorrowerolsd=
ot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Congratulations, Don. I think you've caused a new usenet record to be
> >> set - Henry has responded FOURTEEN times (to date) to this single
> >> posting.
> > He has? *He has*? Wow.
> >> Wow. Just....... wow!
> > Quite.
> All hail Don, da winnah and new champeen! My hat is off to you, sir! It's
> quite the accomplishment.
Thankyou, thankyou. I wish to share this award with my inside-job,
CIA handlers.
Posted by Tim on September 8, 2010, 9:55 am
> > On 9/7/2010 9:20 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> > > Odinn wrote:
> > >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> > >>> I can answer this one... about 30 years ago I hit a deer that leapt
> > >>> onto the interstate as I was riding 65+ mph. I went straight over
> > >>> the handlebars and landed on my chin and knees -- the chin of the
> > >>> helmet, not mine. That chin bar was worn through at least halfway.
> > >>> My face was untouched (and after I finally gained some traction and
> > >>> began to tumble, the leather suit got scuffed on every panel).
> > >> Damn, when I hit the deer at 60+ MPH, I tumbled and rolled, the bike
> > >> flipped and flopped, my helmet (beanie) went flying. Not a single
> > >> head or face injury.
> > > There's all kinds of ways to leave a motorcycle. Would you be willing
> > > to try it again?<g>
> > I'm not willing to try any of my accidents again, yet none of them have
> > ever produced a face or head injury (or even scraped a helmet in the
> > accidents where I was wearing a lid), but I have broken my back (20%
> > compression fracture anterior L1), cracked 3 ribs, 2 bones in left foot,
> > broken the left fibula just above the ankle.
> I've often read about all these full face helmet with horrible chin
> abrasions and, for some reason, I can't think of any case (I'm sure
> there are some, but I haven't encountered/heard of them) of all those
> people with 3/4 or 1/2 helmets getting their chins ground off to a
> pulp (like should happen if the same happened to their face that
> happens to those chin guards). Why?
> The best conclusion I can draw from this is that a full face helmet
> (due to weight and extra size, probably) actually encourages the
> grinding of the protective chin bar against the pavement when a fall
> occurs.
> I mean, think about it. If one guy were standing, wearing a heavy,
> large full face helmet and another was wearing a light half helmet and
> someone were to give each of them a sudden, violent and unexpected
> push (to send you flying face-first to the ground), it seems likely
> that the first guy's helmet (and chin bar) would impact the ground
> from the fall, due to the extra momentum and size.
> I suspect there's an element of self-fulfilling prophecy here.
Otoh, I have crashed many times on the racetrack, as did my race
partner, wearing a full face helmet, and neither of us ever so much as
damaged the chin bar. That same race partner, riding his Gold Wing on
the street, wearing a half helmet, hit a deer and hit the pavement
face and hands first. He was wearing gloves. No hand injuries. His
nose, cheeks, chin, and eyes were all damaged by the pavement. None
of those injuries would've occurred had he been wearing his full face
helmet.
Posted by Henry on September 8, 2010, 11:01 am
Tim wrote:
> Otoh, I have crashed many times on the racetrack, as did my race
> partner, wearing a full face helmet, and neither of us ever so much as
> damaged the chin bar. That same race partner, riding his Gold Wing on
> the street, wearing a half helmet, hit a deer and hit the pavement
> face and hands first. He was wearing gloves. No hand injuries. His
> nose, cheeks, chin, and eyes were all damaged by the pavement. None
> of those injuries would've occurred had he been wearing his full face
> helmet.
When I was a teen, my younger brother, our friends, and I used to
ride dirt bikes on the rural gravel roads and trails in the area.
Lots of trails to take when we saw a Sheriff's car. Anyway, my
brother was wearing an open face helmet with a face shield when he
crested a blind hill on his Honda SL70 going a bit too fast. A
neighbor was pushing his bike in the middle of the road just over
that hill, and my brother went down trying to avoid him. He gouged
the hell out that face shield when his head hit the road face first.
If he hadn't been wearing the helmet or wasn't using the face shield,
I'm pretty sure he'd look different today. I was impressed with the
way that face shield held up...
--
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Posted by Road Glidin' Don on September 8, 2010, 12:46 pm
> Tim wrote:
> > Otoh, I have crashed many times on the racetrack, as did my race
> > partner, wearing a full face helmet, and neither of us ever so much as
> > damaged the chin bar. That same race partner, riding his Gold Wing on
> > the street, wearing a half helmet, hit a deer and hit the pavement
> > face and hands first. He was wearing gloves. No hand injuries. His
> > nose, cheeks, chin, and eyes were all damaged by the pavement. None
> > of those injuries would've occurred had he been wearing his full face
> > helmet.
> When I was a teen, my younger brother, our friends, and I used to
> ride dirt bikes on the rural gravel roads and trails in the area.
> Lots of trails to take when we saw a Sheriff's car. Anyway, my
> brother was wearing an open face helmet with a face shield when he
> crested a blind hill on his Honda SL70 going a bit too fast. A
> neighbor was pushing his bike in the middle of the road just over
> that hill, and my brother went down trying to avoid him. He gouged
> the hell out that face shield when his head hit the road face first.
> If he hadn't been wearing the helmet or wasn't using the face shield,
> I'm pretty sure he'd look different today. I was impressed with the
> way that face shield held up...
That raises another good point to consider. Full face helmets may
more frequently get chin bar impacts because they are used much more
(even exclusively) in situations like the one you described -
situations where falls are far more likely to occur.
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> girlfriend, what else does he have to do?