Posted by Tim on September 7, 2010, 12:55 pm
wrote:
> I have a Shoei RF-1000, which I think I paid a little over $300 for. I was
> just looking at helmets, thinking about my next color choice, etc. ...
> Anyway, the Shoei RF-1100 with graphics is around $450. Whoa!
> And a full-face from HJC is less than $100.
> Then I looked at Bells ... about $550 for a full-face ... Oh My God ... !!!
> I can buy a car for that, just about ... !!!
> What am I getting when I pay $550 for a Bell full-face instead of $80 for an
> HJC full-face?
> DF
More comfort (possibly), more/different features (possibly), better
venting (possibly), higher quality materials (possibly), less weight
(possibly), a very famous easily-recognized brand name (definitely).
Posted by J. Clarke on September 7, 2010, 1:21 pm
On 9/7/2010 12:55 PM, Tim wrote:
> wrote:
>> I have a Shoei RF-1000, which I think I paid a little over $300 for. I was
>> just looking at helmets, thinking about my next color choice, etc. ...
>>
>> Anyway, the Shoei RF-1100 with graphics is around $450. Whoa!
>>
>> And a full-face from HJC is less than $100.
>>
>> Then I looked at Bells ... about $550 for a full-face ... Oh My God ... !!!
>> I can buy a car for that, just about ... !!!
>>
>> What am I getting when I pay $550 for a Bell full-face instead of $80 for an
>> HJC full-face?
>>
>> DF
> More comfort (possibly), more/different features (possibly), better
> venting (possibly), higher quality materials (possibly), less weight
> (possibly), a very famous easily-recognized brand name (definitely).
There's also fit--not saying that the more expensive helmet is
automatically a better fit, but each manufacturer has a different
internal shape and you have to try several brands to find what works for
you. If you're unfortunate it will turn out that the cheap helmets are
all uncomfortable for you.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on September 7, 2010, 2:11 pm
>
> There's also fit--not saying that the more expensive helmet is
> automatically a better fit, but each manufacturer has a different
> internal shape and you have to try several brands to find what works for
> you. If you're unfortunate it will turn out that the cheap helmets are
> all uncomfortable for you.
That is very true.
--
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Posted by CS on September 7, 2010, 5:24 pm
> On 9/7/2010 12:55 PM, Tim wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> I have a Shoei RF-1000, which I think I paid a little over $300 for. I
>>> was
>>> just looking at helmets, thinking about my next color choice, etc. ...
>>>
>>> Anyway, the Shoei RF-1100 with graphics is around $450. Whoa!
>>>
>>> And a full-face from HJC is less than $100.
>>>
>>> Then I looked at Bells ... about $550 for a full-face ... Oh My God ...
>>> !!!
>>> I can buy a car for that, just about ... !!!
>>>
>>> What am I getting when I pay $550 for a Bell full-face instead of $80
>>> for an
>>> HJC full-face?
>>>
>>> DF
>>
>> More comfort (possibly), more/different features (possibly), better
>> venting (possibly), higher quality materials (possibly), less weight
>> (possibly), a very famous easily-recognized brand name (definitely).
> There's also fit--not saying that the more expensive helmet is
> automatically a better fit, but each manufacturer has a different internal
> shape and you have to try several brands to find what works for you. If
> you're unfortunate it will turn out that the cheap helmets are all
> uncomfortable for you.
Fortunately, my head is somewhat squishy anyway, so most helmets fit.
The jackets, on the other hand, are a PITA.
It turns out the ONLY leather jacket that fit me properly was a $650
Firstgear Scout in XXXL. I tried on dozens others, and either the arms were
too short, or the torso was way WAY too huge.
In a turn of luck rivaled only by lottery winners, Cyclegear in Van Nuys had
one, and only one, of these in stock. Turns out some guy ordered it, then
returned it for some reason. It was last year's model, and they wanted it
to go away.
I paid something like $320 for it.
For a white trashy type guy like me, this jacket is pure luxury that I've
yet to grow accustomed to.
CS
Posted by Bob Myers on September 7, 2010, 6:55 pm
On 9/7/2010 3:24 PM, CS wrote:
> Fortunately, my head is somewhat squishy anyway, so most helmets fit.
> The jackets, on the other hand, are a PITA.
> It turns out the ONLY leather jacket that fit me properly was a $650
> Firstgear Scout in XXXL. I tried on dozens others, and either the
> arms were too short, or the torso was way WAY too huge.
Amen to that. Motorcycle jacket sizing seems to be done by the
time-honored dartboard method. One maker's "XXL" is barely equal
to another's "L", and the tailoring - if you can call it that - varies
all over the place.
I just took advantage of a sale one of the online sources had on Scorpion
jackets; not being - ahem - a small person, I ordered the XXL, the biggest
size they had and a size that has generally fit me well in other jacket
lines.
I got the jacket last week; it's wearable, as long as I leave out the liner
(and hopefully I'll continue to have good results with the diet so that by
the time I need the liner, I can wear it), but it's tight in the torso. On
the other hand, the sleeves and shoulders are generous, if anything.
I guess they expect all their customers to have a Superman sort of build,
and I don't think most riders who are, shall we say "of a certain age"
are going to fit their template.
But my last NoNamo-brand leather jacket - which recently had to be
temporarily retired due to a busticated zipper - was also supposedly
an "XXL," but generous in the torso and tighter in the shoulders.
Sigh.
I suppose if I wanted to spend an arm and a leg, and could find a
tailor who works in leather...
Bob M.
> just looking at helmets, thinking about my next color choice, etc. ...
> Anyway, the Shoei RF-1100 with graphics is around $450. Whoa!
> And a full-face from HJC is less than $100.
> Then I looked at Bells ... about $550 for a full-face ... Oh My God ... !!!
> I can buy a car for that, just about ... !!!
> What am I getting when I pay $550 for a Bell full-face instead of $80 for an
> HJC full-face?
> DF