Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on August 4, 2010, 9:09 am
> > I was over at the Harley dealership the other day, and there was an OK
> > leather vest. The look I am going for is the "I am on parole and I will
> > kill you" look, and that vest was OK for that.
> > But on the other hand when I'm riding around I want to be visible. I've
> > thought about wearing one of those yellow reflectorized safety vests over
> > whatever else I'm wearing. Not fashionable, but will do the job.
> What job? Make you visible? Well dream on dude, the bike cops over here say
> that even when they're wearing hi-viz clobber and riding hi-viz and highly
> reflective bikes, pricks SIILL pull out on them because they didn't see 'em.
> Wear what you feel makes you look cool (if that's your thing), coz it's
> better to be on a slab in cool gear than it is in hi-viz shite.
> > Is there any interesting product out there that is very visible but very
> > cool? ... it has been a hot summer. Abrasion resistance to help in a
> > slide would be a plus.
> Don't start talking silly again. Hi-viz and cool in the same sentence?
Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high-
visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. High visibility
colors have been proven to increase visibility and reduce accidents
for emergency response vehicles, though. Highways workers wear hi-viz
yellow for a reason.
I think the odds of hi-viz gear hurting a motorcyclist's safety
profile are vanishingly small, and I've been riding long enough to
know that when I wear the gear, people *do* notice me earlier and more
often than when I don't.
That's not to say that one should *depend* on the gear, but it's a
viable tool in the safety-concious rider's arsenal.
And, of course you can have cool hi-viz gear. My yellow helmet is
definitely the coolest helmet in the Washington metro area. Everyone
else is wearing some lame-o beanie or some even lame-o-er race replica
thingie.
Posted by Datesfat Chicks on August 4, 2010, 10:15 am
>Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high-
>visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. High visibility
>colors have been proven to increase visibility and reduce accidents
>for emergency response vehicles, though. Highways workers wear hi-viz
>yellow for a reason.
I don't know how you'd conduct such a study.
The problem is that those who use hi-visibility gear probably are
conservative in other ways as well.
I'm gonna guess that your guy in the yellow gear and your guy in the black
gear have two different riding styles.
DF.
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on August 4, 2010, 12:54 pm
wrote:
> >Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high-
> >visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. High visibility
> >colors have been proven to increase visibility and reduce accidents
> >for emergency response vehicles, though. Highways workers wear hi-viz
> >yellow for a reason.
> I don't know how you'd conduct such a study.
> The problem is that those who use hi-visibility gear probably are
> conservative in other ways as well.
> I'm gonna guess that your guy in the yellow gear and your guy in the black
> gear have two different riding styles.
I ride the same whether I'm wearing my dark blue helmet, my bright red
helmet, by bright yellow helmet, or my black helmet. I ride the same
whether I'm wearing my full Aerostich Roadcrafter with armor or my
denim jean jacket and jeans.
I do notice that other road users recognize and respond to my
presence more frequently and measurably earlier when I am wearing
brightly a colored helmet and/or a brightly colored jacket.
Posted by J. Clarke on August 4, 2010, 11:08 am
On 8/4/2010 9:09 AM, tomorrow@erols.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was over at the Harley dealership the other day, and there was an OK
>>> leather vest. The look I am going for is the "I am on parole and I will
>>> kill you" look, and that vest was OK for that.
>>
>>> But on the other hand when I'm riding around I want to be visible. I've
>>> thought about wearing one of those yellow reflectorized safety vests over
>>> whatever else I'm wearing. Not fashionable, but will do the job.
>>
>> What job? Make you visible? Well dream on dude, the bike cops over here say
>> that even when they're wearing hi-viz clobber and riding hi-viz and highly
>> reflective bikes, pricks SIILL pull out on them because they didn't see 'em.
>>
>> Wear what you feel makes you look cool (if that's your thing), coz it's
>> better to be on a slab in cool gear than it is in hi-viz shite.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there any interesting product out there that is very visible but very
>>> cool? ... it has been a hot summer. Abrasion resistance to help in a
>>> slide would be a plus.
>>
>> Don't start talking silly again. Hi-viz and cool in the same sentence?
> Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high-
> visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. High visibility
> colors have been proven to increase visibility and reduce accidents
> for emergency response vehicles, though. Highways workers wear hi-viz
> yellow for a reason.
There was one in New Zealand a while back that suggests something like a
33% reduction in accidents for high-conspicuity clothing.
> I think the odds of hi-viz gear hurting a motorcyclist's safety
> profile are vanishingly small, and I've been riding long enough to
> know that when I wear the gear, people *do* notice me earlier and more
> often than when I don't.
> That's not to say that one should *depend* on the gear, but it's a
> viable tool in the safety-concious rider's arsenal.
> And, of course you can have cool hi-viz gear. My yellow helmet is
> definitely the coolest helmet in the Washington metro area. Everyone
> else is wearing some lame-o beanie or some even lame-o-er race replica
> thingie.
Posted by Vito on August 4, 2010, 5:09 pm
J. Clarke wrote:
tomorrow@erols.com wrote:
>>> Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high-
>>> visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. .......
>> There was one in New Zealand a while back that suggests something
>> like a 33% reduction in accidents for high-conspicuity clothing.
The only one I saw showed a marked reduction in accidents for a few months,
until cagers figured out the dude in the clothes was just another kid on a
Honda instead of a cop. Still, it can't hurt .....
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> > leather vest. The look I am going for is the "I am on parole and I will
> > kill you" look, and that vest was OK for that.
> > But on the other hand when I'm riding around I want to be visible. I've
> > thought about wearing one of those yellow reflectorized safety vests over
> > whatever else I'm wearing. Not fashionable, but will do the job.
> What job? Make you visible? Well dream on dude, the bike cops over here say
> that even when they're wearing hi-viz clobber and riding hi-viz and highly
> reflective bikes, pricks SIILL pull out on them because they didn't see 'em.
> Wear what you feel makes you look cool (if that's your thing), coz it's
> better to be on a slab in cool gear than it is in hi-viz shite.
> > Is there any interesting product out there that is very visible but very
> > cool? ... it has been a hot summer. Abrasion resistance to help in a
> > slide would be a plus.
> Don't start talking silly again. Hi-viz and cool in the same sentence?