Posted by Thumper on June 21, 2006, 12:14 pm
Jesus, it's a mad house on the roads in Los Angeles. What with nuts in
little cars and a huge influx of motorcycles.
I had my BMW painted by a Honda dealer and had the opportunity to visit 2
dealerships owned by the same company. I had to retrieve my hard bags and
other related items they neglected to return to me when I picked up the
bike.
Both of these dealerships were crowded with guys and families looking to buy
motorcycles. Several people were buying at the dealership in No. Hollywood.
The buyers seemed to be primarily Latino with wife and kids. One guy I
talked to was buying some kind of 1000cc Honda sportbike (CBR900RR?). He was
asking ME (I was on my Harley) some motorcycling questions as this was his
first bike. His wife and baby looked on.
Now I notice that the road is full of guys riding old and new Japanese &
German bikes. Most don't have a CLUE as to what they are doing with the
motorcycle. Some of the people I've seen are downright deadly dangerous in
their inexperience. Again, we saw a fatal solo crash over the weekend, but I
don't know the details on the rider.
I suspect they are trying to save money on gas. But at what cost?
Hmmm, this seems to be a theme with me lately. I think I'm still pissed off
about my idiot crash, with 36,000 miles on the 2002 BMW and almost 30,000
miles on the 2004 Harley and God knows how many miles I've accumulated on
the Brits.
--
"Of course, you'll have the good taste not to mention that I posted this."
Thumper
"I don't want a pickle..."
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2004 H-D Road King Classic
2002 BMW R1150RT "Kit"
1996 Honda Shadow VLR 600
1978 Triumph Bonneville
1975 Triumph Trident
1974 Norton Interstate
1969 BSA Red Rocket III
1962 Triumph Tiger Cub
1958 BSA Super Bantam COCK
1954 Velocette MAC
Posted by Andrew on June 21, 2006, 12:18 pm
Thumper wrote:
> Jesus, it's a mad house on the roads in Los Angeles. What with nuts in
> little cars and a huge influx of motorcycles.
>
> I had my BMW painted by a Honda dealer and had the opportunity to visit 2
> dealerships owned by the same company. I had to retrieve my hard bags and
> other related items they neglected to return to me when I picked up the
> bike.
>
> Both of these dealerships were crowded with guys and families looking to buy
> motorcycles. Several people were buying at the dealership in No. Hollywood.
> The buyers seemed to be primarily Latino with wife and kids. One guy I
> talked to was buying some kind of 1000cc Honda sportbike (CBR900RR?). He was
> asking ME (I was on my Harley) some motorcycling questions as this was his
> first bike. His wife and baby looked on.
>
> Now I notice that the road is full of guys riding old and new Japanese &
> German bikes. Most don't have a CLUE as to what they are doing with the
> motorcycle. Some of the people I've seen are downright deadly dangerous in
> their inexperience. Again, we saw a fatal solo crash over the weekend, but I
> don't know the details on the rider.
>
> I suspect they are trying to save money on gas. But at what cost?
>
> Hmmm, this seems to be a theme with me lately. I think I'm still pissed off
> about my idiot crash, with 36,000 miles on the 2002 BMW and almost 30,000
> miles on the 2004 Harley and God knows how many miles I've accumulated on
> the Brits.
>
>
This is why I say, I'd rather share the road with bikers who are there
to ride, as opposed to bikes looking to save money on gas.
--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Infant
Posted by WavyDavy on June 21, 2006, 1:40 pm
> This is why I say, I'd rather share the road with bikers who are there to
> ride, as opposed to bikes looking to save money on gas.
Honda NS400R - 20mpg (UK gallons)
Honda(ish) NS500R - 16mpg (at best, if I'm using it properly)
Yamaha R6 - 40mpg
Triumph Daytona - 40mpg (But 55+mpg if I hold a steady 110-130mph on the
Autoroute! Really.)
Cost of 1 gallon unleaded - E6.13 (French prices)
Ford Focus 1.8tdi - 52mpg
Alfa Romeo 156 JTDm-jet - 50mpg
Cost of 1 gallon diesel - E4.81
My bikes do anything but save me money on fuel......
Maybe European fuel pricing strategies *would* have a positive effect in the
US, if only to stop people driving gas-guzzling cars and/or stop idiot
newbie bikers buying way out of their league and wiping out......
Dave
Posted by Thumper on June 22, 2006, 1:18 am
>> This is why I say, I'd rather share the road with bikers who are there to
>> ride, as opposed to bikes looking to save money on gas.
> Honda NS400R - 20mpg (UK gallons)
> Honda(ish) NS500R - 16mpg (at best, if I'm using it properly)
> Yamaha R6 - 40mpg
> Triumph Daytona - 40mpg (But 55+mpg if I hold a steady 110-130mph on the
> Autoroute! Really.)
> Cost of 1 gallon unleaded - E6.13 (French prices)
> Ford Focus 1.8tdi - 52mpg
> Alfa Romeo 156 JTDm-jet - 50mpg
> Cost of 1 gallon diesel - E4.81
> My bikes do anything but save me money on fuel......
> Maybe European fuel pricing strategies *would* have a positive effect in
> the US, if only to stop people driving gas-guzzling cars and/or stop idiot
> newbie bikers buying way out of their league and wiping out......
> Dave
2006 Toyota Tundra 14 to 16 mpg
1965 Plymouth Sport Fury about 10 mpg
1966 Dodge coronet about 12 mpg.
2004 Harley Davidson 95ci Big Bore Kit, cams and ported and relieved heads.
35 to 40 MPH.
2002 BMW R1150RT 40 mph.
1954 Velocette 350 50 - 60 mph.
1962 Triumph Tiger Cub 60 mpg
Not bad for me. I hate small cars. Ride every day almost.
By the way, I am addicted to fast carbon burning vehicles.
Thumper
Posted by Mike T. on June 21, 2006, 2:23 pm
> Jesus, it's a mad house on the roads in Los Angeles. What with nuts in
> little cars and a huge influx of motorcycles.
> I had my BMW painted by a Honda dealer and had the opportunity to visit 2
> dealerships owned by the same company. I had to retrieve my hard bags and
> other related items they neglected to return to me when I picked up the
> bike.
> Both of these dealerships were crowded with guys and families looking to
> buy motorcycles. Several people were buying at the dealership in No.
> Hollywood. The buyers seemed to be primarily Latino with wife and kids.
> One guy I talked to was buying some kind of 1000cc Honda sportbike
> (CBR900RR?). He was asking ME (I was on my Harley) some motorcycling
> questions as this was his first bike. His wife and baby looked on.
> Now I notice that the road is full of guys riding old and new Japanese &
> German bikes. Most don't have a CLUE as to what they are doing with the
> motorcycle. Some of the people I've seen are downright deadly dangerous in
> their inexperience. Again, we saw a fatal solo crash over the weekend, but
> I don't know the details on the rider.
> I suspect they are trying to save money on gas. But at what cost?
> Hmmm, this seems to be a theme with me lately. I think I'm still pissed
> off about my idiot crash, with 36,000 miles on the 2002 BMW and almost
> 30,000 miles on the 2004 Harley and God knows how many miles I've
> accumulated on the Brits.
Yeah, I can see where a sudden influx of inexperienced riders could be
hazardous. I've got another perspective on this, though. I decided to buy
a motorcycle for a couple of reasons. ONE of them was to save money on gas.
But I've wanted to get back into bicycling (competitively) for a long time,
and finally had to face up to the reality that my body just will not perform
the way it did 30 years ago. If only I didn't have to pedal . . .
Well, shit, that problem was solved over a century ago. Why pedal if you
don't have to? :)
But anyway, back to the topic. I'm still an inexperienced motorcycle rider.
By this time next year, I will have about 15K miles (or more) of riding
experience. How many non-commuter riders could rack up 15K in experience in
their first year? In short, if these newbies you complain about don't off
themselves, they could catch up to your riding skill level quick. I already
feel quite comfortable carrying passengers, and the engine aint even broken
in yet. :) -Dave
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> little cars and a huge influx of motorcycles.
>
> I had my BMW painted by a Honda dealer and had the opportunity to visit 2
> dealerships owned by the same company. I had to retrieve my hard bags and
> other related items they neglected to return to me when I picked up the
> bike.
>
> Both of these dealerships were crowded with guys and families looking to buy
> motorcycles. Several people were buying at the dealership in No. Hollywood.
> The buyers seemed to be primarily Latino with wife and kids. One guy I
> talked to was buying some kind of 1000cc Honda sportbike (CBR900RR?). He was
> asking ME (I was on my Harley) some motorcycling questions as this was his
> first bike. His wife and baby looked on.
>
> Now I notice that the road is full of guys riding old and new Japanese &
> German bikes. Most don't have a CLUE as to what they are doing with the
> motorcycle. Some of the people I've seen are downright deadly dangerous in
> their inexperience. Again, we saw a fatal solo crash over the weekend, but I
> don't know the details on the rider.
>
> I suspect they are trying to save money on gas. But at what cost?
>
> Hmmm, this seems to be a theme with me lately. I think I'm still pissed off
> about my idiot crash, with 36,000 miles on the 2002 BMW and almost 30,000
> miles on the 2004 Harley and God knows how many miles I've accumulated on
> the Brits.
>
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