Posted by Justin on July 27, 2008, 12:49 am
All -
So this coming week I'll be pulling apart and cleaning the carbs on my
Honda Shadow Spirit. I have the Haynes manual and have pulled apart carbs
(albeit slightly simpler) before so I'm not totally in the dark here.
I'll have access to a full machine shop (father's) while I do this so it
ought to be fun and trouble-free (famous last words).
In the Haynes manual it refers to pulling the plug for the pilot screw (I
take it the plug covers the screw? Anyone know why?) and then replacing
the plug with a new one since to pulling the old one requires drilling it
to get a grip. Fair enough.
So I'm looking at the parts fiche on bikebandit.com for the carburetor
(component parts) and I can't for the life of me figure out what part is
the plug for the pilot screw. I think it's number 5 but I'm not quite
sure and I want to make sure I have all the right bits before pulling
apart the things.
If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Justin
'07 Suzuki SV650
'02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
'69 Triumph TR25W
Posted by Mark Olson on July 27, 2008, 8:03 am
Justin wrote:
> In the Haynes manual it refers to pulling the plug for the pilot screw (I
> take it the plug covers the screw? Anyone know why?) and then replacing
> the plug with a new one since to pulling the old one requires drilling it
> to get a grip. Fair enough.
>
> So I'm looking at the parts fiche on bikebandit.com for the carburetor
> (component parts) and I can't for the life of me figure out what part is
> the plug for the pilot screw. I think it's number 5 but I'm not quite
> sure and I want to make sure I have all the right bits before pulling
> apart the things.
> '02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
Don't bother replacing the plug. It's just a little aluminum cap that
keeps you from adjusting your idle mixture screw. It's commonly called
an EPA anti-tamper plug. Hondas sold in other countries don't have these
plugs because they aren't subject to our EPA rules. It's not a necessary
functional part of the carb in any way.
If you aren't the original owner or if you've ever had the mixture
adjusted to compensate for an aftermarket exhaust, the plugs are probably
already gone anyway,
--
'07 FJ13AW '99 EX250-F13
OMF #7
Posted by Justin on July 27, 2008, 11:18 am
: Don't bother replacing the plug. It's just a little aluminum cap that
: keeps you from adjusting your idle mixture screw. It's commonly called
: an EPA anti-tamper plug. Hondas sold in other countries don't have these
: plugs because they aren't subject to our EPA rules. It's not a necessary
: functional part of the carb in any way.
Ah, thank you. Also . mentioned the same thing. I had suspected as much.
I am the original owner of the bike so the plug will probably still be
there.
Thanks again to both responses.
Justin
Posted by . on July 27, 2008, 8:47 am
> So I'm looking at the parts fiche on bikebandit.com for the carburetor
> (component parts) and I can't for the life of me figure out what part is
> the plug for the pilot screw. �I think it's number 5 but I'm not quite
> sure and I want to make sure I have all the right bits before pulling
> apart the things.
Honda : VT1100C2 A (02) MOTORCYCLE, USA, VIN# 1HFSC430-2A200001 TO
1HFSC430-2A299999
5 SKU: 16016-MAH-670
SCREW SET (Honda Code 4523783)
All the parts in the little box #5 are the idle mixture screw
assembly, which includes the idle screw, the spring, small washer,
tiny o-ring, and the EPA anti-tamper plug.
There's no point in ordering $30 worth of parts to get the little
aluminum cap that knowledgeable tuners drill out and throw away.
You probably don't need to order those parts at all, the only thing
that could possibly go wrong is a previous owner broke the tip off the
idle screw or squashed the o-ring absolutely flat.
Posted by Stupendous Man on July 27, 2008, 12:00 pm
As Marks said, the plugs shouldn't go back in.
Check out
http://www.hondashadow.net/
The forum is overly moderated by people who don't always follow their own
rules, but you will find a lot of model-specific info and deals on parts
both new and used.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
> take it the plug covers the screw? Anyone know why?) and then replacing
> the plug with a new one since to pulling the old one requires drilling it
> to get a grip. Fair enough.
>
> So I'm looking at the parts fiche on bikebandit.com for the carburetor
> (component parts) and I can't for the life of me figure out what part is
> the plug for the pilot screw. I think it's number 5 but I'm not quite
> sure and I want to make sure I have all the right bits before pulling
> apart the things.
> '02 Honda Shadow VT750DC