Posted by The Older Gentleman on February 10, 2008, 3:34 pm
> totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> :Heh. No, but my daughter has one.
>
> The new ones don't have cables, but the old ones had:
>
> Front brake cable
> Rear brake cable
> Throttle cable
> Choke cable
> Shift up cable
> Shift down cable
> Speedometer cable
>
> All of the cables but the rear brake ran through the neck and most
> ran through the body as well. They were all of bicycle quality.
Yup, sounds about right.
I got it wrong, though. Hers is a Piaggio.
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Posted by Polarhound on February 10, 2008, 11:20 am
TOG@Toil wrote:
>>
>> :Was out at the Suzuki dealership today looking at the GSX650F. It caught my
>> :eye that there is a hydraulic hose rather than a cable from the clutch
>> :control down to the engine somewhere.
>> :
>> :What is that all about?
>> :
>> :How does it work?
>> :
>> :Advantages?
>> :
>> :A cable always seemed fine to me ...
>>
>> They work very well. They are easier to pull than cable clutches,
>> allowing heavier springs on the clutch end. The cable never breaks
>> or binds.
>>
>> Once in a while you have to change the fluid.
>
>
> Can't remember the last time I had a clutch cable break, actually.
> About 20 years ago, on a Guzzi, it was; maybe 25 years. I've had to
> replace a few before they snapped, mind. About as frequently as I've
> changed hydraulic systems, actually.
>
You can swap a cable on the side of the road.
Try fixing a leaky/contaminated hydraulic system by flashlight on the
side of the highway.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on February 10, 2008, 11:53 am
> You can swap a cable on the side of the road.
>
> Try fixing a leaky/contaminated hydraulic system by flashlight on the
> side of the highway.
True. But here we're getting into the "is it better to have a simple
bike that it easily fixed or a complex one that doesn't need fixing?"
argument.
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BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
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Posted by Jack Hunt on February 10, 2008, 1:33 pm
>You can swap a cable on the side of the road.
I unloaded a motocross bike from a trailer at the trail head. The clutch cable
snapped as I pulled it to get into gear. I was able to patch it with some
safety wire and ride the rest of the day, but I expected it to break every time
I pulled the clutch. I did a lot of clutchless shifting that day.
>Try fixing a leaky/contaminated hydraulic system by flashlight on the
>side of the highway.
Hydraulic systems rarely fail with no warning. I have bled a hydraulic system
(not mine)at 12,000 feet in a Rocky Mountain pass on the Great Divide. Most
hydraulic failures just slowly degrade until they no longer work. The time to
repair is when they start to degrade, not when they stop working. The people
who don't notice the degradation are the same people who aren't capable of
fixing it no matter where it happens.
No, you probably can't replace a hose on the side of the road but only because
you don't have a hose and a little fluid with you. Most (not all) cable owners
do not carry spares either. I have had two cable failures in 42 years of
riding. I'll take those odds and won't bother carrying a spare.
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Jack
Posted by The Older Gentleman on February 10, 2008, 1:59 pm
>
> No, you probably can't replace a hose on the side of the road but only
> because you don't have a hose and a little fluid with you. Most (not all)
> cable owners do not carry spares either. I have had two cable failures in
> 42 years of riding. I'll take those odds and won't bother carrying a
> spare.
That's pretty much my take on it, though when I'm doing long distance
tours I do carry a couple of solderless nipples.
A quick check on cables before departing is time well spent.
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BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F & SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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>
> :Heh. No, but my daughter has one.
>
> The new ones don't have cables, but the old ones had:
>
> Front brake cable
> Rear brake cable
> Throttle cable
> Choke cable
> Shift up cable
> Shift down cable
> Speedometer cable
>
> All of the cables but the rear brake ran through the neck and most
> ran through the body as well. They were all of bicycle quality.