Posted by Mark Olson on January 15, 2010, 2:24 pm
Datesfat Chicks wrote:
>> Gaidheal wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question #1: Once when I did this after a couple weeks of not being
>>>> rolled,
>>>> the bike was hard to roll--it was kind of "stuck"--but then it freed
>>>> up.
>>>> I'm assuming that in the engine and transmission there would be
>>>> nothing to
>>>> do this, even in 20-degree weather.
>> If your bike was in gear and you were pushing it with the clutch
>> pulled in, then it's possible that the useless drivel wasn't
>> completely useless, as the clutch plates can stick together,
>> especially when things are cold and the oil is thick.
>
> In gear, clutch pulled in, as you conjectured.
>
> If I'm only going to roll it 24 inches, naturally grabbing it by the
> handlebars and rolling it is easier than messing with the gear selection.
It's easier to pull up the gearshift into neutral than it is to
push the bike in gear with the clutch pulled in, because there's
a lot of drag between the clutch plates due to the thick oil
film holding them together.
Multi-plate wet clutches are fundamentally different animals than
an automotive style single plate dry clutch.
Posted by don (Calgary) on January 15, 2010, 5:27 pm
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:44:09 -0500, "Datesfat Chicks"
>> If your bike was in gear and you were pushing it with the clutch pulled
>> in, then it's possible that the useless drivel wasn't completely useless,
>> as the clutch plates can stick together, especially when things are cold
>> and the oil is thick.
>In gear, clutch pulled in, as you conjectured.
>If I'm only going to roll it 24 inches, naturally grabbing it by the
>handlebars and rolling it is easier than messing with the gear selection.
Although the official "Ding" has already been issued on this topic, if
the resistance was caused by thick oil and the clutch plates, and not
a pad dragging on a disk, you will also find shifting into first from
neutral to be a bit of a challenge, when starting the bike after it
has been sitting for a while. Usually I will work the clutch a few
times, as the bike is warming up, to free up the plates.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 15, 2010, 5:36 pm
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:44:09 -0500, "Datesfat Chicks"
>
> >
> >> If your bike was in gear and you were pushing it with the clutch pulled
> >> in, then it's possible that the useless drivel wasn't completely useless,
> >> as the clutch plates can stick together, especially when things are cold
> >> and the oil is thick.
> >
> >In gear, clutch pulled in, as you conjectured.
> >
> >If I'm only going to roll it 24 inches, naturally grabbing it by the
> >handlebars and rolling it is easier than messing with the gear selection.
>
> Although the official "Ding" has already been issued on this topic, if
> the resistance was caused by thick oil and the clutch plates, and not
> a pad dragging on a disk, you will also find shifting into first from
> neutral to be a bit of a challenge, when starting the bike after it
> has been sitting for a while. Usually I will work the clutch a few
> times, as the bike is warming up, to free up the plates.
Not a problem on my BMW :-))
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Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 15, 2010, 6:15 am
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It's just a brake sticking.
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Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 15, 2010, 6:14 am
> Once when I did this after a couple weeks of not being rolled,
> the bike was hard to roll--it was kind of "stuck"--but then it freed up.
> I'm assuming that in the engine and transmission there would be nothing to
> do this, even in 20-degree weather. Ice in the chain? On the front brake
> disk?
Just the brake sticking a little.
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question #1: Once when I did this after a couple weeks of not being
>>>> rolled,
>>>> the bike was hard to roll--it was kind of "stuck"--but then it freed
>>>> up.
>>>> I'm assuming that in the engine and transmission there would be
>>>> nothing to
>>>> do this, even in 20-degree weather.
>> If your bike was in gear and you were pushing it with the clutch
>> pulled in, then it's possible that the useless drivel wasn't
>> completely useless, as the clutch plates can stick together,
>> especially when things are cold and the oil is thick.
>
> In gear, clutch pulled in, as you conjectured.
>
> If I'm only going to roll it 24 inches, naturally grabbing it by the
> handlebars and rolling it is easier than messing with the gear selection.