Posted by tripletask on August 13, 2010, 6:33 am
Talked to a friend living near Milwaukee and the Harley situation came
up. He stated that in the 1990's the entry wage at Harley, even floor
sweeper-types, was $22.50 an hour. HOG must move or go under.
Posted by J. Clarke on August 13, 2010, 7:22 am
On 8/13/2010 6:33 AM, tripletask@gmail..com wrote:
> Talked to a friend living near Milwaukee and the Harley situation came
> up. He stated that in the 1990's the entry wage at Harley, even floor
> sweeper-types, was $22.50 an hour. HOG must move or go under.
Why must they move or go under? It's not like they're competing on
price with anybody. And where would they move to that would result in
their dealing with a different labor union? China perhaps?
Posted by Vito on August 13, 2010, 10:21 am
| Talked to a friend living near Milwaukee and the Harley situation came
| up. He stated that in the 1990's the entry wage at Harley, even floor
| sweeper-types, was $22.50 an hour. HOG must move or go under.
Such figures tend to include everything from sick leave, vacation & holidays
to company contributions to health insurance, social security, unemployment
insurance, et al, to a portion of supervisory/management wages prorated.
Usually more than double what the employee actually earns let alone takes
home.
Posted by brad herschel on August 13, 2010, 12:19 pm
Did a bunch of research re: the situation in Milwaukee. Apparently the
Harley jobs were highly
coveted. That $22.50 per hour is apparently a good number. They also
enjoy fine benefits. But unless Harley
and the unions can agree on wage adjustments Harley will have to move.
Much talk about Kentucky.
Hate to see an American institution move out of the country.
Posted by JD on August 13, 2010, 12:55 pm
On 8/13/2010 9:19 AM, brad herschel wrote:
> Did a bunch of research re: the situation in Milwaukee. Apparently the
> Harley jobs were highly
> coveted. That $22.50 per hour is apparently a good number. They also
> enjoy fine benefits. But unless Harley
> and the unions can agree on wage adjustments Harley will have to move.
> Much talk about Kentucky.
> Hate to see an American institution move out of the country.
It's way too easy to blame the unions. Back in
'70's the typical CEO made 10X the average
employee wage. Now that number is 100X and more.
Since '70 and Reagan's trashing of the air traffic
controller's union, collective bargaining has
declined so you can't really blame today's
economic problems on them but the case for
pointing the finger at corporate greed is pretty
strong. Capitalism works when the money keeps
moving and that means making sure that the wage
earners make enough to spend in a diverse
selection of products and services. Having 90% of
the GDP controlled by 5% of the population isn't
doing any of us any good.
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> up. He stated that in the 1990's the entry wage at Harley, even floor
> sweeper-types, was $22.50 an hour. HOG must move or go under.