Posted by J. Clarke on January 7, 2008, 3:36 pm
The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> And endangering everyone around him, and himself. The first
>> time it turns out the cager was planing to make a turn, and not
>> signalling, he'll find that out.
> If he's in front of the car at traffic lights, how will the car
> turning left or right endanger him?
> Take your time.
If he's in _front_ of the car at the traffic lights then he's out into
the cross-street traffic lane and somebody on the cross street is
going to do for him.
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Posted by Mike Schenk on January 7, 2008, 4:14 pm
>If he's in _front_ of the car at the traffic lights then he's out into
>the cross-street traffic lane and somebody on the cross street is
>going to do for him.
Why? Most intersections I know, the cars are lined up a bit behind the
start of the intersection and there's plenty of place for a motorbike to
be in front.
Mike
Posted by J. Clarke on January 7, 2008, 5:40 pm
Mike Schenk wrote:
>>
>> If he's in _front_ of the car at the traffic lights then he's out
>> into the cross-street traffic lane and somebody on the cross street
>> is going to do for him.
> Why? Most intersections I know, the cars are lined up a bit behind
> the
> start of the intersection and there's plenty of place for a
> motorbike
> to be in front.
Depends on whether there's a crosswalk or not.
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Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 8, 2008, 2:26 am
> Mike Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >> If he's in _front_ of the car at the traffic lights then he's out
> >> into the cross-street traffic lane and somebody on the cross street
> >> is going to do for him.
> >
> > Why? Most intersections I know, the cars are lined up a bit behind
> > the
> > start of the intersection and there's plenty of place for a
> > motorbike
> > to be in front.
>
> Depends on whether there's a crosswalk or not.
There usually is. Where there isn't, in the UK, bikes come alongside the
cars rather than go in front, because obviously that's putting you out
in the traffic flow.
You see, all it needs is a *little* thought and a *little* skill. You'd
be advised to start acquiring both.
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Posted by J. Clarke on January 12, 2008, 1:05 pm
The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Mike Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If he's in _front_ of the car at the traffic lights then he's out
>>>> into the cross-street traffic lane and somebody on the cross
>>>> street
>>>> is going to do for him.
>>>
>>> Why? Most intersections I know, the cars are lined up a bit behind
>>> the
>>> start of the intersection and there's plenty of place for a
>>> motorbike
>>> to be in front.
>>
>> Depends on whether there's a crosswalk or not.
> There usually is. Where there isn't, in the UK, bikes come alongside
> the cars rather than go in front, because obviously that's putting
> you out in the traffic flow.
> You see, all it needs is a *little* thought and a *little* skill.
> You'd be advised to start acquiring both.
A "little thought" tells you that if are "alongside" you are going to
get slammed by someone making a left turn without looking where he is
going.
Maybe wherever you are everybody always looks. That is not the case
here.
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>> time it turns out the cager was planing to make a turn, and not
>> signalling, he'll find that out.
> If he's in front of the car at traffic lights, how will the car
> turning left or right endanger him?
> Take your time.