Posted by Wolfie on January 7, 2008, 10:51 am
Ken Abrams wrote:
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>> What's the point
>> of riding a bike in town otherwise?
>
> I think you MISSED the point.
> What's the point of riding a bike anywhere?
>
> HINT: The answer is the same, regardless of where "anywhere" is.
>
>
Funny old-fashioned way of looking at things.
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Wolfie
Posted by Ken Abrams on January 7, 2008, 10:42 am
> He isn't cutting the line, he's passing slower traffic.
Bullshit.
I have a compact car. I'm not cutting the line by driving on the shoulder,
I'm just passing slower traffic.
Total bullshit.
Assuming that you have stopped at a signal just in the course of normal
traffic ebb and flow (and are not stopped because of some un-natural jam),
then those who "filter to the front" absolutely ARE cutting the line and are
exhibiting a large amount of assholishness.
Posted by Wolfie on January 7, 2008, 10:56 am
Ken Abrams wrote:
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>
>> He isn't cutting the line, he's passing slower traffic.
>>
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> Bullshit.
> I have a compact car. I'm not cutting the line by driving on the
> shoulder, I'm just passing slower traffic.
> Total bullshit.
>
> Assuming that you have stopped at a signal just in the course of normal
> traffic ebb and flow (and are not stopped because of some un-natural
> jam), then those who "filter to the front" absolutely ARE cutting the
> line and are exhibiting a large amount of assholishness.
>
>
Seems like there are a lot of people here that don't get lane-splitting.
Well, guys, tell you what, it WORKS everywhere else, so just leave it
alone if you have never experienced it, because otherwise, you just
sound like, well, silly.
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Wolfie
Posted by Ken Abrams on January 7, 2008, 1:57 pm
> Seems like there are a lot of people here that don't get lane-splitting.
> Well, guys, tell you what, it WORKS everywhere else,
There you are wrong. We "get it" just fine.
And we understand that it "works".......until you meet a cage/truck suddenly
changing lanes.
It works fine.....right up to the second that it doesn't and then you might
be dead.
The debate is over whether or not it is prudent and/or should be allowed
everywhere.
I vote no on both. I don't think the "average" rider has either the skill
or the sense to pull it off.
If watching that video doesn't give the average rider the willies, then they
are one of the stupid ones who would likely end up eating concrete.
Now, what I consider to be a different question: If traffic is stopped dead
(or almost so), should bikes be allowed to filter to the front, say at 10
mph or less. I got no problem with that. It makes sense and would seem to
pose little danger to anybody.
Posted by Mike Schenk on January 7, 2008, 2:37 pm
>Same everywhere I've ever travelled on the continent of Europe.
>This would tend to argue that your perception is wrong.
Well, his perception is probably ok for some of the situations in the
USA. I was riding US101 sometime ago in rush hour between San Jose and
San Francisco and I wouldn't be very comfortable splitting lanes there.
In fact I wouldn't be very comfortable on a motorbike at that time and
place. The way car drivers behave over there is much different than the
way they behave over here in Europe. I had a similar feeling but less
extreme when I was in the Seattle area.
I can perfectly see how an American rider accustomed to that kind of
traffic cannot believe lane splitting can be done and is not inherently
dangerous. They really should get used to the European traffic first and
then realize that traffic is more organized.
Mike
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>> What's the point
>> of riding a bike in town otherwise?
>
> I think you MISSED the point.
> What's the point of riding a bike anywhere?
>
> HINT: The answer is the same, regardless of where "anywhere" is.
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>