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Looking for novelty helmet Paul Ciszek 08-29-2008
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Posted by Andrew998 on August 30, 2008, 1:34 am


> Paul Ciszek wrote:
>> Does anyone manufacture novelty helmets that actually protect the head?
>>
>> An acquaintance has had a mishap (on a bicycle), the details of which
>> he can't quite remember. :-( He is now willing to start wearing a
>> helmet. But he would like, if possible, to get one that looks like
>> the old Kaiser Wilhelm era german military helmets, with the spike on
>> top.
>> I suppose a phony plastic spike could be glued on to a helmet of the
>> right shape. Does anyone sell helmets that look like this?
> Regular Bicycle Foam Hats, er helmets, really only function for bump and
> scrape protection. Whole population studies have shown no statistically
> significant reduction in serious head injuries and death with bicycle foam
> hat use.
>

And yet this study suggests otherwise:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pdf/pgr/roadsafety/research/rsrr/theme1/bicyclehelmetsreviewofeffect4726

--
Andrew998


Posted by Paul Ciszek on August 30, 2008, 10:11 am



>
>And yet this study suggests otherwise:
>http://www.dft.gov.uk/pdf/pgr/roadsafety/research/rsrr/theme1/bicyclehelmetsreviewofeffect4726

Would a motorcycle helmet be safe for bicycle use? It seems to me
that something that helps protect your noggin in a 60MPH crash should
also help protect it in a 30MPH crash.

There do appear to be DOT approved German-ish black gloss motorcycle
helmets. I figure a flimsy plastic spike spraypainted gold should be
doable.


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Posted by Tom Sherman on August 30, 2008, 12:02 pm


Paul Ciszek wrote:
>> And yet this study suggests otherwise:
>>
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pdf/pgr/roadsafety/research/rsrr/theme1/bicyclehelmetsreviewofeffect4726
>
> Would a motorcycle helmet be safe for bicycle use? It seems to me
> that something that helps protect your noggin in a 60MPH crash should
> also help protect it in a 30MPH crash....

Yeah, but you would die of heat stroke wearing a full-face motorcycle
helmet on a hot day while riding a bicycle hard. A moderately strong
cyclist will have to dissipate 700 to 1000 watts of waste heat, and a
motorcycle helmet is a good insulator [1].

[1] A cold snap during college spring break left me with a 4-hour ride
back to school in 20-30°F weather. While I had to stop to warm my hands
and feet several times, and was shivering afterwards for about 5 hours,
my head or face never felt cold at 65-70 mph.

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Posted by Bob Myers on August 30, 2008, 8:47 pm




> Read this comment on that paper:
> http://www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2004.pdf

I keep forgetting that this thread is going to both rec.motorcycles
and rec.bicycles.misc. Hadn't really thought much about the whole
"helmet legislation" thing from the perspective of the bicycle rider.

Bob M.



Posted by Frank Krygowski on August 30, 2008, 10:20 pm


>
>
> > Read this comment on that paper:
> >http://www.cyclehelmets.org/papers/c2004.pdf
>
> I keep forgetting that this thread is going to both rec.motorcycles
> and rec.bicycles.misc. =A0Hadn't really thought much about the whole
> "helmet legislation" thing from the perspective of the bicycle rider.
>
> Bob M.

Oh, yeah, bicyclists get that as much as motorcyclists.

I'm both, actually. (1972 BMW R75/5). Motorcycling's head injury
rate is way, way higher than bicycling's, and in fact bicycling's is
lower than for pedestrians walking anywhere near traffic. But that
doesn't stop them from trying to make a commercial product mandatory.

For the motorcyclists, this article is interesting:

http://www.forbes.com/fyi/1999/0503/041.html

- Frank Krygowski

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