Posted by saddlebag on July 22, 2010, 8:54 pm
On Jul 22, 8:30 pm, .p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:59:33 -0700 (PDT), saddlebag
> >wrote:
> >> I was out at the mall today and somebody had a nice sportbike centered in a
> >> car parking space.
> >> Because the parking space was so desirable (close to the mall entrance), I
> >> put my motorcycle off to the side of his and a little ahead and left him
> >> maybe an 18 inch gap so he could easily mount his bike and back out. I also
> >> left my steering unlocked so if he felt he HAD to move my bike he could
> >> (although I didn't see why that would be necessary).
> >> How bad is it (as far as manners) to see a parking spot you want to share
> >> and just share it (with a stranger)?
> >> Thanks for any insight, Datesfat.
> >Wow, I can't believe the responses. I would have parked next to him
> >too and wouldn't give a rat's ass if someone on a bike parked next to
> >me in a gigantic ass car parking space either.
> What if some goomba you never met in your life did it, and
> decided that maybe he was gonna 'just move your bike a little' ?
As long as he doesn't hurt it that's okay with me. The head of our
facility (and a former motorcyclist) came up to me one day and said he
noticed my bike was sinking in the asphalt the other day and couldn't
find me to tell me. I said if it happens again don't worry about
finding me, just pick the thing up and roll in forward on some fresh
asphalt.
> Let's say it's some fuckwit on a EX250, new rider, and he
> decides to move your full-dress 'Glide. Are you OK with that ?
As long as he's insured. If he has to move my bike because I didn't
give him enough room to comfortably get on his, I would not care. If
he were to vandalize it, that would be a different story, but move it
because I was a clod and blocked his path, not only wouldn't I mind,
but if I saw him doing it I'd apologize to him for being
inconsiderate.
> What if he parked close enough that he could dismount his
> little 250, but you didn't have enough room to mount / maneuver your
> 'Glide. So, you HAVE to move his bike. Are you in the habit of
> moving stranger's bikes without permission ?
I don't make it a habit, but I wouldn't think twice about it.
> What if you do, and when
> you rest it back down, it turns out the kick stand is loose or
> whatever, and instead of going 'to rest' like you expect, it falls ?
> What if it lands on your bike, or on the car in the next space ?
I'd leave him my insurance card if he wasn't there to take my
information. This kind of things happens at bike events all the time.
Hell, my FIL once dropped his Pacific Coast on my Ducati ST and his
passenger backrest cut my fairing like a Ginsu. Insurance took care
of it, no sweat.
> Guess what ? YOU are liable ! Does your insurance cover that
> ? Hell no. Your insurance covers YOUR bike, not his.
Once when I was a kid in the service, my roommates wife beating friend
was over and bragging about "teaching his ol lady a lesson." I was a
little buzzed at the time and lost my normal calm demeanor and
proceeded to beat his ass throughout my apartment then down the
apartments exterior stairs and over my bike which ended up falling on
a car nearby.
The next day the cops showed up to the apartment and told me the guy
had witnesses that my bike had scratched his car and told me I had to
pay the guy for damages, so I did. Hell, I didn't even realize it in
the heat of the moment. No biggie, shit happens.
Posted by Robert Bolton on July 23, 2010, 12:15 am
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:18:44 -0400, "Datesfat Chicks"
>I was out at the mall today and somebody had a nice sportbike centered in a
>car parking space.
>Because the parking space was so desirable (close to the mall entrance), I
>put my motorcycle off to the side of his and a little ahead and left him
>maybe an 18 inch gap so he could easily mount his bike and back out. I also
>left my steering unlocked so if he felt he HAD to move my bike he could
>(although I didn't see why that would be necessary).
>How bad is it (as far as manners) to see a parking spot you want to share
>and just share it (with a stranger)?
>Thanks for any insight, Datesfat.
As you can see, whether or not it is OK depends upon the other
fellow's temperament.
For a parking space perpendicular to the "curb", I personally would
not squeeze in, but wouldn't mind if someone squeezed in on me, so
long as they left me room to leave. I generally park in the middle of
the space though to avoid adjacent cages, so there generally is not
enough space for a second bike. I'd be a little perturbed if they
blocked me in, but I wouldn't do them any actual damage. I'd just
move their bike.
For parking spaces parallel to the curb, I'd park in an already
occupied space only if the other person had backed into the space in a
manner that indicated they were leaving room for another bike.
Otherwise, I wouldn't squeeze in.
I seldom back into an empty space, but when I do, I generally back
into the space in a manner that leave's room for another ride. It
generally depends on the vibes I get from the adjacent cages.
For both of the above scenarios, I might squeeze into an occupied
space if there was no other place to park and it appeared there was
room. Depends. You just never know the temperament of the unoccupied
bike owner.
I went for a ride a few years ago where parking spaces were limited at
the stop I made. A stranger who had just backed his bike into a
parallel parking space saw me looking for a spot, and waved me into
his space.
Robert
Posted by Stephen! on July 25, 2010, 4:43 pm
> I seldom back into an empty space, but when I do, I generally back
> into the space in a manner that leave's room for another ride. It
> generally depends on the vibes I get from the adjacent cages.
I always back in if only to look 'oh so cool' when I ride it off the
centerstand and continue on without touching my feet to the ground.
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Posted by The Older Gentleman on July 23, 2010, 7:40 am
> Wow, I can't believe the responses.
That makes two of us, then :-)
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Posted by ? on July 23, 2010, 8:07 am
On Jul 23, 4:40 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> > Wow, I can't believe the responses.
> That makes two of us, then :-)
Some of the responses indicate serious paranoia on the part of the
respondent.
But, try *this* on for size:
A lot of California cagers would get angry if they couldn't find a
parking space in a crowded lot and they would move an "offending"
motorcycle out of the space and take the space themselves. (1)
Parking *two* motorcycles in a space gives the cager the impression he
just might be dealing with two riders who will oppose him.
Furthermore, I probably wouldn't park in a marked stall at all, I
would park in one of the odd-shaped spaces at the end of the row of
stalls so I would be closer to
the mall entrance.
In fact, I might even park on the sidewalk right next to the door,
butout of the way
of pedestrians.
(1) One guy I used to ride with got into a scuffle with a cager who
tried to move his KZ1000 out of a stall onto the sidewalk. Both
parties involved were large, loud, and aggressive types.
> >wrote:
> >> I was out at the mall today and somebody had a nice sportbike centered in a
> >> car parking space.
> >> Because the parking space was so desirable (close to the mall entrance), I
> >> put my motorcycle off to the side of his and a little ahead and left him
> >> maybe an 18 inch gap so he could easily mount his bike and back out. I also
> >> left my steering unlocked so if he felt he HAD to move my bike he could
> >> (although I didn't see why that would be necessary).
> >> How bad is it (as far as manners) to see a parking spot you want to share
> >> and just share it (with a stranger)?
> >> Thanks for any insight, Datesfat.
> >Wow, I can't believe the responses. I would have parked next to him
> >too and wouldn't give a rat's ass if someone on a bike parked next to
> >me in a gigantic ass car parking space either.
> What if some goomba you never met in your life did it, and
> decided that maybe he was gonna 'just move your bike a little' ?