Posted by BryanUT on July 9, 2007, 10:57 pm
> He was lucky as hell and should have slowed hard the second he saw the
> deer. BTW, where is Bob Nixon. It has been a while since I visited reeky
> and he had recovered from his bad wreck the same summer a lady was talking
> about her husband being a a serious crash. It seems like some of the cool
> people left and the retards stayed.
Bob posts over on A.M.S occassionally. He and Ari have the most first hand
experience with deer that I can recall. Bob wasn't even going all that
fast, but he hit a mule deer and I think Ari hit a white tail. The white
tails are smaller but more unpredictable. Moose, deer, sheep, cows they are
all on my radar. As are jack rabbits. I'd hate to hit a rabbit at triple
digits.
But around town it's the red light running / left turning SUV driving soccer
mom on the cell phone I really worry about.
Posted by .p.jm on July 9, 2007, 11:20 pm
wrote:
>>
>>
>> He was lucky as hell and should have slowed hard the second he saw the
>> deer. BTW, where is Bob Nixon. It has been a while since I visited reeky
>> and he had recovered from his bad wreck the same summer a lady was talking
>> about her husband being a a serious crash. It seems like some of the cool
>> people left and the retards stayed.
>>
>Bob posts over on A.M.S occassionally. He and Ari have the most first hand
>experience with deer that I can recall. Bob wasn't even going all that
>fast, but he hit a mule deer and I think Ari hit a white tail. The white
>tails are smaller but more unpredictable. Moose, deer, sheep, cows they are
>all on my radar. As are jack rabbits. I'd hate to hit a rabbit at triple
>digits.
>But around town it's the red light running / left turning SUV driving soccer
>mom on the cell phone I really worry about.
or your friendly neighborhood 21 wetbacks in an SUV
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Posted by Andrew on July 9, 2007, 11:43 pm
>>
>>
>> He was lucky as hell and should have slowed hard the second he saw the
>> deer. BTW, where is Bob Nixon. It has been a while since I visited reeky
>> and he had recovered from his bad wreck the same summer a lady was
>> talking about her husband being a a serious crash. It seems like some of
>> the cool people left and the retards stayed.
>>
> Bob posts over on A.M.S occassionally. He and Ari have the most first
> hand experience with deer that I can recall. Bob wasn't even going all
> that fast, but he hit a mule deer and I think Ari hit a white tail. The
> white tails are smaller but more unpredictable. Moose, deer, sheep, cows
> they are all on my radar. As are jack rabbits. I'd hate to hit a rabbit
> at triple digits.
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Posted by Turby on July 10, 2007, 1:06 pm
wrote:
>Bob posts over on A.M.S occassionally. He and Ari have the most first hand
>experience with deer that I can recall. Bob wasn't even going all that
>fast, but he hit a mule deer and I think Ari hit a white tail.
Point of order: the deer T-boned Bob, not the other way around. The
bike did not hit the deer. The deer came from the side and hit Bob's
body. AIR.
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Posted by Cam Penner on July 9, 2007, 11:23 pm
says...
> Watch the exciting video as a squid nearly goes body surfing down the
> road:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3bp577
>
> No exaggerations. Everything you see is real. That's how fast
> disaster can strike. And I was rolling off the throttle when I
> spotted the deer. Normally they just stand there. But sometimes they
> do something completely stupid.
>
> I've never locked up my front wheel before.
I read the subject, checked the sender, and was about to jump to some
conclusions.
All in all - from the video - it looks like once the deer started moving
you did more things right than wrong. Your speed looks a bit high for
the type of road you were on though, eh?
Theoretical best idea.
- apply both brakes to the threshold of skidding, allowing them to skid
with a ~5% slip factor
- steer gently behind the direction of travel of the animal
What you did right:
- applied brakes immediately and assertively
- didn't withhold braking force in fear of a lockup
- didn't target fixate and steer INTO the animal
- released the front wheel lockup prior to it causing any sort of drama
What you did wrong:
- a wee bit too hard on the brakes
- travelling in the "grease strip" during evasive maneuvers
- didn't steer gently behind the deer
Real world conditions and skills often involve tradeoffs from
theoretical models. IMO, had you let up on the brakes to trade some
braking traction for steering traction, you would likely have drifted
onto the shoulder and into some loose gravel. Bad results to follow.
You made the right choice in running the risk of overbraking instead of
underbraking. That is - IIRC - why the MSF teaches students to hold a
locked rear wheel rather than modulate. The concentration to modulate
to TRY to achieve maximum braking is more than the brain can manage in
the time permitted, and results in riders dramatically under braking as
a result.
At least that's my two bits.
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> deer. BTW, where is Bob Nixon. It has been a while since I visited reeky
> and he had recovered from his bad wreck the same summer a lady was talking
> about her husband being a a serious crash. It seems like some of the cool
> people left and the retards stayed.