Posted by kingfish@hotmail.com on September 26, 2008, 12:31 pm
I stopped by the Ducati dealer last night to have a look-see at the
new Monster 696. Cool looking scoot, and a lot different from what I'm
used to (VTX1800C & FXDL). The salesman said Duc was bringing a new
1000cc version of the Monster early next year - anybody know anything
about this new bike?
Posted by kingfish@hotmail.com on September 26, 2008, 12:37 pm
wrote:
> I stopped by the Ducati dealer last night to have a look-see at the
> new Monster 696. Cool looking scoot, and a lot different from what I'm
> used to (VTX1800C & FXDL). The salesman said Duc was bringing a new
> 1000cc version of the Monster early next year - anybody know anything
> about this new bike?
Disregard. I see Ducati added a section on their site about the new
Monster 1100S
Posted by Marc Gerges on September 26, 2008, 1:58 pm
> I stopped by the Ducati dealer last night to have a look-see at the
> new Monster 696. Cool looking scoot, and a lot different from what I'm
> used to (VTX1800C & FXDL). The salesman said Duc was bringing a new
> 1000cc version of the Monster early next year - anybody know anything
> about this new bike?
It seems rather obvious that they'll refresh the different sized
monsters, now that the 'small one' is new. Judging by their current
lineup, I'd expect to see something around 900cc and something a bit
above 1000.
I've got to admit, the monster has quite some attraction to me. The
aircooled twin, that characteristic sound, the desmo valve train... I am
perfectly aware it won't be any 'better' than a standard japanese twin
of the same size, but there's just something attractive. As long as they
don't offer ABS, I won't have to consider them, luckily.
cu
.\arc
Posted by Andrzej Rosa on September 26, 2008, 3:41 pm
Dnia 2008-09-26 Marc Gerges napisał(a):
>> I stopped by the Ducati dealer last night to have a look-see at the
>> new Monster 696. Cool looking scoot, and a lot different from what I'm
>> used to (VTX1800C & FXDL). The salesman said Duc was bringing a new
>> 1000cc version of the Monster early next year - anybody know anything
>> about this new bike?
> It seems rather obvious that they'll refresh the different sized
> monsters, now that the 'small one' is new. Judging by their current
> lineup, I'd expect to see something around 900cc and something a bit
> above 1000.
> I've got to admit, the monster has quite some attraction to me. The
> aircooled twin, that characteristic sound, the desmo valve train... I am
> perfectly aware it won't be any 'better' than a standard japanese twin
> of the same size, but there's just something attractive. As long as they
> don't offer ABS, I won't have to consider them, luckily.
ABS almost killed a guy I knew. Especially with those stupid telelevers
by BMW it is licensed to kill you, and even if it won't succeed, it will
try hard enough. The story goes like that - Telelevers have *huge*
unsprung mass, so they tend to lose contact with the road over bumps.
Now imagine you try to stop in such conditions, and your stupid ABS cuts
the brakes off! You just go freaking forward, with not ways of even
slowing down. You are lucky if you can find a comfy ditch to crash land
in, otherwise you are not going to complain about BMW and ABS. Dead
meat does not complain.
--
Andrzej Rosa
Posted by Marc Gerges on September 26, 2008, 4:03 pm
>>
>> I've got to admit, the monster has quite some attraction to me. The
>> aircooled twin, that characteristic sound, the desmo valve train... I am
>> perfectly aware it won't be any 'better' than a standard japanese twin
>> of the same size, but there's just something attractive. As long as they
>> don't offer ABS, I won't have to consider them, luckily.
>
> ABS almost killed a guy I knew. Especially with those stupid telelevers
> by BMW it is licensed to kill you, and even if it won't succeed, it will
> try hard enough. The story goes like that - Telelevers have *huge*
> unsprung mass, so they tend to lose contact with the road over bumps.
> Now imagine you try to stop in such conditions, and your stupid ABS cuts
> the brakes off! You just go freaking forward, with not ways of even
> slowing down. You are lucky if you can find a comfy ditch to crash land
> in, otherwise you are not going to complain about BMW and ABS. Dead
> meat does not complain.
Yes, I've heard similar stories on BMW's ABS systems. Although the
motorcycle in question is a Ducati Monster with a conventional USD fork
- I don't really see a comparison to be made here.
Telelever looks like an interesting concept. I don't really see how the
unsprung weight would be so considerably bigger than with a traditional
fork, and the concept of removing the brake dive of a traditional fork
seems like progress. But then I've got no experience with it, and I
don't really have any interest in BMW's, so that will probably not
change.
I'm quite happy with the ABS system on my current motorbike, it gives a
beginner braking distances in the same league or better than what
experienced riders can realize on non ABS bikes.
But I'm perfectly capable of not having a discussion on the advantages
and disadvantages of ABS brakes :)
cu
.\arc
> new Monster 696. Cool looking scoot, and a lot different from what I'm
> used to (VTX1800C & FXDL). The salesman said Duc was bringing a new
> 1000cc version of the Monster early next year - anybody know anything
> about this new bike?