Posted by Vito on January 20, 2011, 11:43 am
Swmbo's new bike came with a "fob", a theft deterrent. It wil only run if
it is within x feet of the fob, normally carried by the rider. So picture
the scenario ...
She forgets to lock the ignition because we're only a few yards away.
Somebody jumps on, starts the bike and rides off. Fifty yards away it
stalls. There are bystanders and I'm trepid about shooting him from that
range for fear of hitting one of them or, worse, swmbo's new bike. I gallop
off after him rapidly closing the distance. Swmbo follows. When we get
almost close enough to shoot the mf'r the bike starts and he rides away
another 50 yards ... This repeats ..... Hmmmm :)
Posted by Mark Olson on January 20, 2011, 11:47 am
Vito wrote:
> Swmbo's new bike came with a "fob", a theft deterrent. It wil only run if
> it is within x feet of the fob, normally carried by the rider. So picture
> the scenario ...
>
> She forgets to lock the ignition because we're only a few yards away.
> Somebody jumps on, starts the bike and rides off. Fifty yards away it
> stalls. There are bystanders and I'm trepid about shooting him from that
> range for fear of hitting one of them or, worse, swmbo's new bike. I gallop
> off after him rapidly closing the distance. Swmbo follows. When we get
> almost close enough to shoot the mf'r the bike starts and he rides away
> another 50 yards ... This repeats ..... Hmmmm :)
The Kawasaki Concours 14 has a similar system, called KI-PASS, and IIRC it
only prevents the bike from starting if the fob isn't close enough- once
it's started you can throw the fob away and it will keep running. I'm
pretty sure Harley would do it the same way, because it's a huge legal
liability if the engine stalled on a railroad track because the fob died
or the RF link stopped working, if you see what I mean.
Posted by TOG@Toil on January 20, 2011, 12:01 pm
> Vito wrote:
> > Swmbo's new bike came with a "fob", a theft deterrent. It wil only run if
> > it is within x feet of the fob, normally carried by the rider. So picture
> > the scenario ...
> > She forgets to lock the ignition because we're only a few yards away.
> > Somebody jumps on, starts the bike and rides off. Fifty yards away it
> > stalls. There are bystanders and I'm trepid about shooting him from that
> > range for fear of hitting one of them or, worse, swmbo's new bike. I gallop
> > off after him rapidly closing the distance. Swmbo follows. When we get
> > almost close enough to shoot the mf'r the bike starts and he rides away
> > another 50 yards ... This repeats ..... Hmmmm :)
> The Kawasaki Concours 14 has a similar system, called KI-PASS, and IIRC it
> only prevents the bike from starting if the fob isn't close enough- once
> it's started you can throw the fob away and it will keep running. I'm
> pretty sure Harley would do it the same way, because it's a huge legal
> liability if the engine stalled on a railroad track because the fob died
> or the RF link stopped working, if you see what I mean.
Ducati's bloody silly system on the new MultiStrada allows you to
start the bike, and once running, it can be ridden away from the
plipper.
The UK's Bike magazine discovered this after one of its journos rode
the bike something like 140 miles (to a pub, if memory serves) before
switching off and then discovering that he'd managed to mislay the
plipper and couldn't re-start the bike.
Of all bloody silly devices....
Posted by Mark Olson on January 20, 2011, 12:06 pm
TOG@Toil wrote:
> Ducati's bloody silly system on the new MultiStrada allows you to
> start the bike, and once running, it can be ridden away from the
> plipper.
>
> The UK's Bike magazine discovered this after one of its journos rode
> the bike something like 140 miles (to a pub, if memory serves) before
> switching off and then discovering that he'd managed to mislay the
> plipper and couldn't re-start the bike.
>
> Of all bloody silly devices....
You could do what a lot of people have done and simply zip-tie the "plipper" to
the bike somewhere and rely solely on the key. Obviously that would be
problematic
in case the bike was stolen. At least with immobilizers with chipped keys, as
long
as you have the key you have the electronic thingy present, but of course they
have
all the red key/black key hassles too. I'm glad my bike has none of that shit
and
I don't live in a shit hole where bike theft is endemic.
Posted by TOG@Toil on January 20, 2011, 12:23 pm
>I'm glad my bike has none of that shit and
> I don't live in a shit hole where bike theft is endemic.
Plus, of course, you don't own a bike that anyone in their right mind
would want to steal ;-)
> it is within x feet of the fob, normally carried by the rider. So picture
> the scenario ...
>
> She forgets to lock the ignition because we're only a few yards away.
> Somebody jumps on, starts the bike and rides off. Fifty yards away it
> stalls. There are bystanders and I'm trepid about shooting him from that
> range for fear of hitting one of them or, worse, swmbo's new bike. I gallop
> off after him rapidly closing the distance. Swmbo follows. When we get
> almost close enough to shoot the mf'r the bike starts and he rides away
> another 50 yards ... This repeats ..... Hmmmm :)