Posted by sean_q_ on May 20, 2010, 12:03 pm
After letting my Dnepr sit unused at the blueberry farm
for 2 months while we moved, I went to fire it up
the other day... to find the left-hand carb leaking gas.
It seems to be the float valve, which works when I
lift the float manually, but can't get it to work
on its own.
Uh oh... (hindsight)... I shouldda sent for a few float
valve kits back in the winter instead of right at
the start of the good riding season. So now where am I
gonna find parts for a Soviet-era K-68 Dnepr carb
in a big hurry? I found a UK supplier (Cossack M/C's)
but getting something shipped in from across the Pond
could take weeks.
Or is there something I can do to fix the float valves,
such as chucking the needle part in a lathe or hand drill
and polishing the tip with some kind of mild abrasive...
such as toothpaste?
SQ
Posted by TOG@Toil on May 20, 2010, 12:18 pm
> After letting my Dnepr sit unused at the blueberry farm
> for 2 months while we moved, I went to fire it up
> the other day... to find the left-hand carb leaking gas.
> It seems to be the float valve, which works when I
> lift the float manually, but can't get it to work
> on its own.
> Uh oh... (hindsight)... I shouldda sent for a few float
> valve kits back in the winter instead of right at
> the start of the good riding season. So now where am I
> gonna find parts for a Soviet-era K-68 Dnepr carb
> in a big hurry? I found a UK supplier (Cossack M/C's)
> but getting something shipped in from across the Pond
> could take weeks.
> Or is there something I can do to fix the float valves,
> such as chucking the needle part in a lathe or hand drill
> and polishing the tip with some kind of mild abrasive...
> such as toothpaste?
Depends. Is the float not lifting because it's punctured? Or not
lifting because it's just sticking on its pivot? If the float itself
isn't punctured, then some judicious cleaning up of the pivot ought to
sort it.
It's very, very unlikely to be the needle itself that is at fault.
Could be a duff needle valve sealing O-ring, though, if Dnepr's ever
had such hi-tech kit :-/
Posted by Mark Olson on May 20, 2010, 12:58 pm
TOG@Toil wrote:
> It's very, very unlikely to be the needle itself that is at fault.
> Could be a duff needle valve sealing O-ring, though, if Dnepr's ever
> had such hi-tech kit :-/
Buddy of mine with an '05 FZ1 had exactly that problem. For whatever
reason all four of the O-rings that seal the float valve seats to the
carb bodies deteriorated. I bought him a bag of 100 O-rings for $4.26*
and now he is being inundated (FSVO inundated) with requests (& the odd
demand!) from other similarly afflicted folks on the FZ1OA forum. I
suspect Yamaha/Mikuni just got a bad batch of O-rings.
Of course, the O-ring is not sold by Yamaha as a separate part, you have
to buy the entire needle, seat, O-ring and filter cap as an assembly,
costing about $22 per carb, IIRC.
*McMaster-Carr P/N 9262K629, 7.5mm ID x 10.5mm OD x 1.5mm width
Posted by The Older Gentleman on May 20, 2010, 2:32 pm
> TOG@Toil wrote:
>
> > It's very, very unlikely to be the needle itself that is at fault.
> > Could be a duff needle valve sealing O-ring, though, if Dnepr's ever
> > had such hi-tech kit :-/
>
> Buddy of mine with an '05 FZ1 had exactly that problem. For whatever
> reason all four of the O-rings that seal the float valve seats to the
> carb bodies deteriorated. I bought him a bag of 100 O-rings for $4.26*
> and now he is being inundated (FSVO inundated) with requests (& the odd
> demand!) from other similarly afflicted folks on the FZ1OA forum. I
> suspect Yamaha/Mikuni just got a bad batch of O-rings.
>
> Of course, the O-ring is not sold by Yamaha as a separate part, you have
> to buy the entire needle, seat, O-ring and filter cap as an assembly,
> costing about $22 per carb, IIRC.
A couple of my Honda 400 Four ones weep a bit, but that's sheer old age.
Like the owner, really. You can effect a cure by removing them and
applying a thin smear of gasket goo to them, then replacing.
>
> *McMaster-Carr P/N 9262K629, 7.5mm ID x 10.5mm OD x 1.5mm width
You *sad* bastard.
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Posted by Vito on May 20, 2010, 5:01 pm
TOG@Toil wrote:
>>> After letting my Dnepr sit unused at the blueberry farm
>>> for 2 months while we moved, I went to fire it up
>>> the other day... to find the left-hand carb leaking gas.
>>> It seems to be the float valve, which works when I
>>> lift the float manually, but can't get it to work
>>> on its own.
>>>
>>> Uh oh... (hindsight)... I shouldda sent for a few float
>>> valve kits back in the winter instead of right at
>>> the start of the good riding season. So now where am I
>>> gonna find parts for a Soviet-era K-68 Dnepr carb
>>> in a big hurry? I found a UK supplier (Cossack M/C's)
>>> but getting something shipped in from across the Pond
>>> could take weeks.
>>>
>>> Or is there something I can do to fix the float valves,
>>> such as chucking the needle part in a lathe or hand drill
>>> and polishing the tip with some kind of mild abrasive...
>>> such as toothpaste?
>>>
>> Depends. Is the float not lifting because it's punctured? Or not
>> lifting because it's just sticking on its pivot? If the float itself
>> isn't punctured, then some judicious cleaning up of the pivot ought
>> to sort it.
>>
>> It's very, very unlikely to be the needle itself that is at fault.
>> Could be a duff needle valve sealing O-ring, though, if Dnepr's ever
>> had such hi-tech kit :-/
What is the float made of? Some BMWs used a "foam" float that would
saturate and sink if exposed to 'gasahol' (10% alkahol). Produce the same
symptom.
> for 2 months while we moved, I went to fire it up
> the other day... to find the left-hand carb leaking gas.
> It seems to be the float valve, which works when I
> lift the float manually, but can't get it to work
> on its own.
> Uh oh... (hindsight)... I shouldda sent for a few float
> valve kits back in the winter instead of right at
> the start of the good riding season. So now where am I
> gonna find parts for a Soviet-era K-68 Dnepr carb
> in a big hurry? I found a UK supplier (Cossack M/C's)
> but getting something shipped in from across the Pond
> could take weeks.
> Or is there something I can do to fix the float valves,
> such as chucking the needle part in a lathe or hand drill
> and polishing the tip with some kind of mild abrasive...
> such as toothpaste?