Posted by The Older Gentleman on October 22, 2009, 2:20 am
How do they get themselves out of the hole?
Forget all the finance default nonsense, etc, etc. Concentrate on the
bikes and the market and the selling.
Are they building the right bikes? Should they diversify their model
range a bit? I mean, concentrating on one basic engine isn't necessarily
good. Look at the way BMW and Triumph have moved into different sectors,
and are doing very well right now.
Anyone?
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BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER (currently Beaving) Damn, back to five bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by J. Clarke on October 22, 2009, 7:18 am
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> How do they get themselves out of the hole?
> Forget all the finance default nonsense, etc, etc. Concentrate on the
> bikes and the market and the selling.
> Are they building the right bikes? Should they diversify their model
> range a bit? I mean, concentrating on one basic engine isn't
> necessarily good. Look at the way BMW and Triumph have moved into
> different sectors, and are doing very well right now.
> Anyone?
They just _un_diversified their model range. They clearly think that their
cruisers and their touring bikes are "the right bikes" and silly things like
championship-winning Buells are luxuries that they can do without when times
are tough.
Posted by TOG@Toil on October 22, 2009, 8:09 am
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > How do they get themselves out of the hole?
> > Forget all the finance default nonsense, etc, etc. Concentrate on the
> > bikes and the market and the selling.
> > Are they building the right bikes? Should they diversify their model
> > range a bit? I mean, concentrating on one basic engine isn't
> > necessarily good. Look at the way BMW and Triumph have moved into
> > different sectors, and are doing very well right now.
> > Anyone?
> They just _un_diversified their model range. They clearly think that their
> cruisers and their touring bikes are "the right bikes" and silly things like
> championship-winning Buells are luxuries that they can do without when times
> are tough.
Yes, I see what you mean, but I was thinking of widening the types of
bikes badged as Harleys. God knows why they bought MV anyway. Buell
you can make a case for. I was just thinking that HD has one basic
engine, and one type of bike: the cruiser, available in a myriad
forms. OK, yes, two, if you include the Glide tourers. They've done
very well with that recipe for a century or so, but can they continue
like that?
Nobody in their right mind would ever say that HD builds sports bikes,
the Sportster notwithstanding. Entry level bikes? The 883, I suppose.
Look at what BMW does now. Used to be just the airhead flat twins.
Then the fours and triples. Then the oilhead flat twins. Then the
singles. Now the across-the-frame fours: a very diverse range.
Same goes for Triumph.
Posted by Doug Payne on October 22, 2009, 8:37 am
TOG@Toil wrote:
> Look at what BMW does now. Used to be just the airhead flat twins.
> Then the fours and triples. Then the oilhead flat twins. Then the
> singles. Now the across-the-frame fours: a very diverse range.
Not to mention what is arguably their most recent success, the 800cc
Rotax parallel twins.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on October 22, 2009, 9:33 am
> TOG@Toil wrote:
>
> > Look at what BMW does now. Used to be just the airhead flat twins.
> > Then the fours and triples. Then the oilhead flat twins. Then the
> > singles. Now the across-the-frame fours: a very diverse range.
>
> Not to mention what is arguably their most recent success, the 800cc
> Rotax parallel twins.
Oh yes, forgot them. And I nearly bought one.
Are they actually Rotax engines, though? Made by Rotax, I mean?
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER (currently Beaving) Damn, back to five bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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> Forget all the finance default nonsense, etc, etc. Concentrate on the
> bikes and the market and the selling.
> Are they building the right bikes? Should they diversify their model
> range a bit? I mean, concentrating on one basic engine isn't
> necessarily good. Look at the way BMW and Triumph have moved into
> different sectors, and are doing very well right now.
> Anyone?