Posted by Twibil on March 30, 2009, 2:12 am
> > What a maroon. His "source" turns out to be Rush Limbaugh,
> No, it wasn't. I don't listen to that asshole. I heard her say this.
> Now you too, either apologize or fuck off, don't care wither way.
"Wither"? Making up your own language now?
But before the requisite "BUHAHAHAHA" there's a serious dichomoty here
that needs pointing out: You *claimed* that "According to our
Secretary of State, the U.S. needs to follow the lead of Mexico when
it comes to environmental concerns." but in fact she said nothing like
that. (We call this a "lie", and we call the people who tell them
"liars".)
According to the actual quote, she said "This partnership that you
have created here between the public and the private sector is a model
that we and others will look towards." Nothing there about the US
"needing to follow Mexico's lead when it comes to environmental
concerns", just a diplomatically-put statement that we'll look at
their programs and see what they've done; presumably to think about
adapting any potentially useful ideas to our own ends.
So in the end what you're attempting here (and very poorly, too) is
just pure spin: take something that was never said -or even implied-
and spin it so that it looks as if someone you hate said something
awful, when in fact what was said was perfectly reasonable. Your
problem is that the only people who'll fall for that sort of thing are
the folks who hate so much that they'll believe *anything* bad if it's
said about one of the objects of their dissaffection, and won't look
any further.
The *rest* of the voting public -and that would be the great majority-
just quietly shake their heads and vote for the other guy, which is
why we have Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress and Obama
in the White House as well.
In short; if you want to bad-mouth Hillary at *least* take the time to
find something she's said that's worth attacking -not a terribly
difficult task- instead of trying to twist some every-day diplomatic
statement into evidence of anti-American intent.
It's exactly that sort of bullshit that lost the far right the last
few elections.
Posted by Bob Myers on March 29, 2009, 8:50 pm
Stephen! wrote:
> b2147a1471b7@v1g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>> Ahem. Here's the entire text of her speech. Would you kindly point
>> out where she says anything like that? Because I just read it and
>> there's no such statement included.
>>
>> http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/03/120905.htm
> So you are confusing her public speech with her interview following
> the meeting. No wonder you can't find her comments on how wonderful
> the mexicans are treating the environment.
'Scuse us? Weren't YOU the one who said this was:
> Part of her speach [sic] south of the border very recently...
Hey, if you say it's part of her "speach," you can hardly say
others are confusing that with the interview...
Bob M.
Posted by Vito on March 27, 2009, 12:17 pm
> The "all white" state.
I just suggested that, if you don't like paypal, don't use it. I don't.
Same goes for hotel Ca - if you don't like the land of fruits and nuts stay
out of it like I do.
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on March 27, 2009, 5:46 pm
> I just suggested that, if you don't like paypal, don't use it. I don't.
> Same goes for hotel Ca - if you don't like the land of fruits and nuts stay
> out of it like I do.
Whew. Thank doodness my truck is burgandy and my bikes are blue,
yellow, and red, and white. I can still relocate to California when I
retire. Due to all the warnings, I am brushing up on my Spanglish.
Posted by Turby on March 27, 2009, 2:43 pm
>Nanny state legislators are at it again:
>http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/25/california-to-reduce-carbon-emissions-by-banning-black-cars/
>Linked PDF:
>http://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/cool-paints/final_cool_cars_workshop_presentation31209.pdf
>No more black cars or paint with less than 20% reflectivity beginning in
>2012.
>As if their bankrupt state hasn't enough problems rather than worry about
>the color of something. The term "Cool Paint" in the PDF link is
>interesting. Next will be dark colored houses, buildings, roofs.
>The "all white" state.
What about the people who live in the mountains where it's cold? They
need the black to absorb heat.
--
Turby the Turbosurfer
> No, it wasn't. I don't listen to that asshole. I heard her say this.
> Now you too, either apologize or fuck off, don't care wither way.