Posted by Schiffner on June 29, 2009, 9:19 am
> wrote:
> >The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >>> On Jun 27, 11:18 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >>> Gentleman) wrote:
> >>>>> Traffic hardly moved during the next 15 minutes we sat there,
> >>>> Filter past the traffic. It's what bikes are for.
> >>> But it's illegal most places in north America, and can result in a
> >>> nasty fine if a cop sees you doing it.
> >> I know. I couldn't resist, though.
> >>> Perfectly legal in California, of course.
> >> And most other places on the planet. Where people are sensible enough to
> >> realise that if there's some unused road, and a vehicle small and agile
> >> enough to use, you might as well let them.
> >> And in this eco-age, it relieves congestion which also reduces
> >> emissions. A winner all round.
> >The sight of a bike filtering past stopped traffic is enough to
> >give many people outside California an apoplectic fit and drive
> >them into a rage. The fact that the bike isn't impeding them in
> >any way makes no difference, they can't stand the fact that you're
> >getting ahead of them and in their mind it isn't fair that you
> >aren't waiting your turn. I have filtered on occasion when it's
> >the sensible if not quite legal thing to do and have seen this
> >first hand.
> I wondered at the time if that wasn't why the woman hopped out of the
> motor home and started walking along side of it, blocking my way
> enough to make me passing by her somewhat unsafe.
That's why you have a horn. 8^)
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Posted by Schiffner on June 28, 2009, 10:15 am
> On Jun 27, 11:18 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > > Traffic hardly moved during the next 15 minutes we sat there,
> > Filter past the traffic. It's what bikes are for.
> But it's illegal most places in north America, and can result in a
> nasty fine if a cop sees you doing it.
So is speeding, go ahead tell the truth...you never speed.
> Perfectly legal in California, of course.
Wrong it's just not illegal.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on June 28, 2009, 11:13 am
> > Perfectly legal in California, of course.
>
> Wrong it's just not illegal.
That means it's legal. The system is that everything is legal unless
it's proscribed, not the other way around. Unless you live in North
Korea or somewhere.
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Posted by Schiffner on June 28, 2009, 11:29 am
On Jun 28, 9:13 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> > > Perfectly legal in California, of course.
> > Wrong it's just not illegal.
> That means it's legal. The system is that everything is legal unless
> it's proscribed, not the other way around. Unless you live in North
> Korea or somewhere.
You forget california is "funny". This is one of those "No it isn't
illegal as such, but it isn't exactly legal either" it's all rather
complicated and a lawyer current on california traffic law could
explain it better than anyone else...unless you can find Larry and ask
him.
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Posted by Twibil on June 28, 2009, 3:21 pm
> > That means it's legal. The system is that everything is legal unless
> > it's proscribed, not the other way around. Unless you live in North
> > Korea or somewhere.
> You forget california is "funny".
Bullshit.
I live here. I ride here. I know the laws here.
They're just like the laws in any other State of the US in that things
are either legal or they're not.
> This is one of those "No it isn't
> illegal as such, but it isn't exactly legal either" it's all rather
> complicated and a lawyer current on california traffic law could
> explain it better than anyone else...unless you can find Larry and ask
> him.
The only way you can get a ticket for lane-splitting in California -
and have it stick- is if you're doing something stupid while you're
splitting: such as splitting dead-stopped freeway traffic at 60 MPH.
In which case, you don't get a ticket for lane-splitting; you get one
for reckless driving.
Because lane-splitting is *legal* in California: not "just not
illegal".
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> >The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >>> On Jun 27, 11:18 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >>> Gentleman) wrote:
> >>>>> Traffic hardly moved during the next 15 minutes we sat there,
> >>>> Filter past the traffic. It's what bikes are for.
> >>> But it's illegal most places in north America, and can result in a
> >>> nasty fine if a cop sees you doing it.
> >> I know. I couldn't resist, though.
> >>> Perfectly legal in California, of course.
> >> And most other places on the planet. Where people are sensible enough to
> >> realise that if there's some unused road, and a vehicle small and agile
> >> enough to use, you might as well let them.
> >> And in this eco-age, it relieves congestion which also reduces
> >> emissions. A winner all round.
> >The sight of a bike filtering past stopped traffic is enough to
> >give many people outside California an apoplectic fit and drive
> >them into a rage. The fact that the bike isn't impeding them in
> >any way makes no difference, they can't stand the fact that you're
> >getting ahead of them and in their mind it isn't fair that you
> >aren't waiting your turn. I have filtered on occasion when it's
> >the sensible if not quite legal thing to do and have seen this
> >first hand.
> I wondered at the time if that wasn't why the woman hopped out of the
> motor home and started walking along side of it, blocking my way
> enough to make me passing by her somewhat unsafe.